Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-27599520-20180201215310/@comment-27389401-20180415224217

Christian Higdon wrote: I don't even need to explain feats for Doomsday to say he still wins. Funny enough, this isn't Xeno Goku we're talking about, now is it? Has Xeno Goku survived existance erasing beams? Has he outsped Flash? No. Until he does feats like or even better than that, this turns into an inconclusive or a win in Doomsday's favor. I believe Canon Goku can beat Doomsday because his SSB and Ultra Instinct forms are beyond SSG who can make a clash with Beerus that can turn the entire universe into an empty void, and was even threatening worlds like the afterlife [which is several times larger than the universe] and Kaioshin Realm, which are separate worlds from the living world. The afterlife is separate because it was stated to have an entirely different flow of time, if not none at all, meaning it's a separate space-time. Similar to this, Zen'o erasing Soul Zamasu, who was merging with the timeline, was stated to have turned the future into an "empty void," and a place like the World of Void is stated to have no time or space, whether it seems that way or not. With that said, this means SSJG Goku and Beerus' clash would annihilate all of space AND time, as well as the space-time of the separate worlds. This would make Beerus and SSJG Goku 2-C. Goku can blind Doomsday with Solar Flare and then use Hakai on him or Spirit Bomb who is effective against evil beings.

He is still faster via blitzing Jiren who can move during Time-Skip and even broke through Hit's Cage of Time. He was then stated to transcend time itself, being completely unbound by it. Hit's Time-Skip takes time to where there is none and stores it to create a parallel universe. Moving when no time is present and completely breaking through such an attack with mere movements is definitely Infinite speed. He can blitz an SSJB Evolution Vegeta and UI Goku at full power, and after breaking his limits, was able to keep up with a mastered UI Goku.