Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20171003210326/@comment-31816534-20171107030516

Metal Mario875 wrote: 2. Sonic "holding back" has nothing to do with this. His feats are consistently placed within a Tier 5 fashion and FTL speed. He has dozens of statements and feats that are FTL only, so this feat plus, like, one other isn't going to make him take such a massive jump.

6. A Goomba ain't holding a sword, knife nor anything of the sort. Nor do Koopa Troopas, or Shy-Guys. Does Mario care? No. And one example of Ben not holding back isn't enough to say he'll never hold back. Mario consistently doesn't hold back. Can the same be said for Ben? Do you have more examples?

2. Except it kinda does. In Sonic CD, Sonic is seen going crazy fast in an open-road rocky desert. However, as he reaches a forest, he starts to move a bit slower. Sonic is usually capable of showing off his true power, but only in certain situations.

6. There was also a time where Ben threatened to kill Ultimate Kevin. But even without this, the Omnitrix has a special feature that turns Ben into an alien immediately to protect him from any danger.

Rook: I thought you were-

Ben: Nah. I always figured the Omnitrix had a failsafe that wouldn't let me die, and sure enough, it kicked in right when the big bang started. Gave me just the alien I needed.