Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20170616233845/@comment-31355441-20170727100809

TheMetallicBlur wrote: Clockworx wrote: TheMetallicBlur wrote: AnglsFire478 wrote: TheMetallicBlur wrote: Clockworx wrote: This has been flooding my notifications for weeks and I just wanna say that I think Luigi is the most likely victor here. Tails' main thing here is speed and smarts. But his smarts are rarely that useful in battle. Tails may be able to pinpoint Luigi's weaknesses and is a little less predictable, but that could only do so much especially with Luigi's superior power. As for Tails' speed, he may be able to keep up with casual Sonic but when Sonic is at his fastest, Tails would be left in the dust. Though, I'd still consider Tails FTL. MFTL possibly. Luigi's FTL as well, but to a lesser extent. But his MFTL reactions are surely enough to keep Tails' small speed advantage at bay. With that out of the way, Luigi dominates Tails in sheer power, strength and durability. And his arsenal would surely prove more useful. Tails' abilities are less predictable as said before, but he's pretty outclassed when it comes down to things. So, yeah. Luigi has the edge here.

Being outclassed doesn't matter if you counter everything your opponent throws at you.

Luigi Cyclone < Typhoon

Green Missile < Tails Swipe

Super Jump Punch < Reflexes

Negative Zone < Shield Bot and Flight

Thunderhand < Energy Ball arm cannon

Poltergust < Tinker

Stats < Scan, Flash Grenade.

Also, how does Luigi have MFTL reactions? You might say " It comes from the Launch Star.", but I can move my arm while on a roller coaster, but I can't react at those speeds.

i swear to god that you're gonna break my limits, your downplaying are making my brain cry

not only that you show Little of Luigi moves but you also assume that he don't have MFTL Reaction

Luigi have like a lot of moves i already list them in a comment i Made, while Tails might counter most of Luigi's Moves but in a hand to hand combat (A.K.A Punching and kicking) Tails are fucked anyway you can't dodge the Negative zone as along as your entered the effects get you (A.K.A Sleeping, unstoopable Taunting, poisons etc.), it' doesn't if Tails can Counter ThunderHand because he still have his Energy Balls also Luigi can Control bodies with his ThunderHand so GG Tails, for fuck sake stop with the Scan put this in your tight fucking skull Y O U    C A N ' T    S C A N    S O M E O N E    W H O   H A V E    N O    W E A K    S P O T S   the wikia itself said it sometimes the Scan Can't work

Luigi have MFTL Reaction by Dodging Lasers here's a list :

Hoohooros:

https://youtu.be/MPP5KIkeflc?t=17s

Cackletta's Soul:

https://youtu.be/8BYP4EkdkXg?t=10m21s

Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story Dark Star :

https://youtu.be/XYSFA21szD0?t=4m56s

https://youtu.be/XYSFA21szD0?t=3m22s

https://youtu.be/XYSFA21szD0?t=5m33s

https://youtu.be/MPP5KIkeflc?t=17s

https://youtu.be/tphC5wSInWc?t=26m26s

Pi'llodium:

https://youtu.be/x_rClxZaQJU?t=7m46s 1. Just because his weak spots haven't been exposed doesn't mean he doesn't have any. He's still a human. 2. So he's beat in hand to hand, eh? Bet you don't know that in hand to hand, he beat Knuckles the Echidna.

3. Haven't you noticed how characters can survive negative Zone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIEGbpthU7M skip to 0:30

4. Tails can react to lasers as seen in Sonic Colors.

5. Everything was lasers, onochromatic light. Not faster than light. Counter? Tails doesn't counter Luigi. They match each other almost blow for blow. Luigi's offensive game is way better while Tails has a better defense game. But since Luigi outclasses Tails, Tails loses. Simple as that. And how dare you call Luigi a human. I know technically that's his species, but it just feels wrong. You should probably note that I didn't include all of Tails' attacks. Plus, if it makes you any better, he's a superhuman.

Also, you should keep in mind that Tails' arm cannon can harm Shadow. Plus, the reason it beats Thunderhand is because it's faster. and i didn't unclude Luigi's Moves too

it's impressive but not that Much consider Shadow's Meh Derubality (Well in Superform it's amazing), you forget 1 thing the Thunderhand have more useful uses than The Arm Canon like Controlling bodies