Talk:Goku VS Superman 2/@comment-14017325-20160406151545/@comment-24152851-20160411014728

Yeah, Superman is strong as he needs to be. And sometimes the plot requires him to lose. Hence making that whole "he's limitless" argument pointless. It doesn't matter if he's limitless, all that matters if the writers want him to win a particular battle, and they'll use whatever cheap unrealistic ass pull to achieve his victory or defeat.

For starters the sun itself isn't unlimited. It will burn out in about 5 billion years. And since the sun isn't eternal, it obviously couldn't equal an infinity energy output, and by extension Supes the solar battery cannot possibly have infinite strength.

Yeah thanks, I watched the video. I don't need you to transcribe everything. I get the whole "they're characters represent different things", but that is of no relevance to how strong the characters are presented on screen. The fact remains that Screwattack didn't even bring up what Goku was capable of doing. You can argue that it's weaker than Superman's feats, but they never even said "Goku can do this and it's weaker than Superman" they just went "Superman can do this, therefore no one is stronger, and it doesn't matter what Goku does."

That's another issue with Screwattack, they don't stick to a single version of Superman. Different versions of Superman have different levels of power, but they decided to mesh that all into one. That's like saying Savage Hulk, World Breaker Hulk, Maestro, and Joe Fixit are all the same being and the main Hulk can do any of their abilities. Screwattack needs to be consistent on which Superman they draw feats from.

I don't really care who will win between Superman and Goku at the moment, My point I'm getting across is Screwattack didn't do the analysis properly. You want to argue Goku destroying the universe is inferior to Superman's ability. Fine. But Screwattack never mentioned that and explain it was falls short of Supes.

I will not accept their analysis until they make it less one-sided and cover all aspects of the argument.