Talk:Knuckles the Echidna/@comment-3396984-20150726051055

" I'm not saying the archie comics are invalidated. I'm saying that they don't hold precedence over the original source material, which are the games."

- I know but it still does play a major factor which again is why Knuckles is going to win this death battle.

" And the Spiderman and Superman examples are completely irrelevant. That was done solely by the animation. The actual research for was not an influence on it, which by the way, also used the canon stories as the main material source."

- The point I'm making is in case you haven't noticed be it in examples or even in breakdowns characters in death battles fight honestly better and quicker then they may normally do and have access to their entire move base which you may not usually see in their fights because they are battles to the death. Thus why saying "since when would Knuckles use chaos energy" isn't an argument you should make if we're calculating all their abilities and what they can do. Also I think if DK was shooting Knuckles from far away with coconut gun shots he'd try countering with his own long range abilities.

" As for the super saiyan 4, that was used for 2 reasons. Goku and Superman was a particularly special fight where they admitted to use everything as long as they don't contradict the "original source material". Which itself leads to the second reason: At the time, no matter how you saw it, Dragonball GT was part of the original canon."

-  Uh how is "using everything as long as it doesn't contradict the original source material" different compared to every other death battle? Where it's shown characters use moves from various source materials. The Darth Vader one specifically gave examples just from the live action movies, but the clone wars cartoons and the Star Wars comics. So again everything is canon.

Also my point isn't just that Goku going super sayian 3 to 4 never happened in any medium. It didn't happen in GT either in case you haven't seen that so yeah obviously taking liberties for the sake of having the best fight and again not a thing specific just to Goku vs Superman.

" And next time, just add another comment in this same chain. I almost thought your last one was by a completely different person and nearly ignored it."

- Yeah I tried. I tried this on multiple computers too but whatever my network is doesn't allow me to respond here to responses. It has the reply button up for some posts but any post that already has a reply can't be replied to it thus why I can only do it this way. Don't act like I don't know how to internet man: been doing it for a decade so trust me I have it set up like this for a reason.