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Thanos Vol 2? Will add that to my list.

Yeah, exactly why it shouldn't be used for comic characters. Even Stan Lee admitted it was useless, it just depends on who the writers want to win. RIP The Man, The Legend.

That's wanking then, and not really scaling. Scaling was consistent until the Buu Saga. I will reiterate that.

Just read the Jiraiya vs. Roshi transcript, and OMFG... they said Roshi could contend with galaxy busters (he was no match for the Tournament of Power high tiers unless they wanted to flat-out admit him dodging Jiren puts him on that tier, which they didn't specify), and galaxy busters in and of itself is an extreme lowball. Goku might have easily surpassed Beerus. If so, that would put him at, imo, macroversal. My definition would be a character who could take out a universe and the various pocket dimensions and side realms it contains. So yeah. That's a huge downplay right there, but in their defense, they could be thinking that Roshi only contended with the mid Tournament of Power tiers, and that at the highest level, they are universal. Maybe. But that they didn't elaborate on how he's able to stand up to galaxy busters is... questionable. They really should have just thrown "dodging Jiren's punches" into the mix. Because it implies they think Goku and Beerus are also only galaxy busters, despite confirmation of Beerus and Champa's stats as universe busters many times over. Grawrgh, Death Battle, Y U DO DIS?