Talk:Ghost Rider VS Lobo/@comment-29742618-20190808030116/@comment-39801929-20190808181030

^You’re thinking of a different scene, the one in the actual World War Hulk storyline. There’s another story which someone posted scales of earlier here, where full Zarathos-Ghost Rider fights the avengers, including Hulk and Thor.

And yeah, I’m aware, scaling with these two franchises gets very iffy a lot of the time. I myself have conflicting thoughts about the arguments for universal heralds the OBD uses now, but DB uses them now so might as well, right? I’m more comfortable scaling these two to the BIG feats cause Lobo is pretty consistently at least on par with Superman and is generally an “Oh shit call the universe’s strongest superheroes” sort of villain, while in the few times we’ve seen Zarathos take control he’s an “Oh shit call in Doctor Strange and the strongest Avengers” sort of guy, if that makes any sense lol.