Talk:Wario VS King Dedede/@comment-27921095-20190428225445

I believe this is actually close. Black Jewel creating a new world with a Sun and some other stars makes it so that, even without scaling, Wario has a feat that can put him on the cosmic scale, amd scalimg to Mario, which I believe is fine, only helps enforce that rating. Sure, Wario may be slower, but the AP and Durability along with his hax and endurance with regen + his mamy forms can make this close or tip the scales in his favor.

I know others don't agree because VBW is very influential here, but I never ahreed with their "Needs a Power Star" ranking for Mario characters since it's inconsistent and paradoxical as there's equal evidence against it as there is for Power Stars actually being used for stat buffs for the impressive feats. I also don't think Jamba Hearts are inpressive, and the only clear-cut feats we have for Kirby that give us an actual number rather than guesswork based on an assumed timeframe and distance (that can easily be explained by Kirby's Warp Star seemingly having the ability to warp like in Smash Bros.) are much lower than quadrillions c. The Jambaa Hearts also weren't dodged by anyone besides Kirby and appeared to have lost a decent amount of acceleration as they reached Popstar, since he didn't exactly react quickly at all to the slow projectile.