Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26934487-20190623161059/@comment-27921095-20190917094855

Discord is massively faster, being FTL-MFTL+ and has way more hax and counters than Bill. Also better effective regen (Bill's godly comes from a resurrection that'll take a good bit it seems and dependent on if his prayer worked) and can become intangible and non-corporeal so Cipher would have no way beyond hax of even harming him, but good luck tagging him in the first place.

Also, Discord just has better displayed feats and even recently just gained statements that he has power over all of reality and was reaffirmed by a character gaining acess to his powers and stating they felt like they could pretty much warp the cosmos to suit their wants. Also had an "infinite power" statement as well.

So even if we use Cipher's statements, Discord can match them and already had better displayed abilities to begin with. Don't see how anyone can reason Cipher wins when his best speed feat comes from an illusion he fed to Stanford and otherwise was only around Peak Human-Superhuman at best