Talk:Mario VS Sonic (2011)/@comment-35012729-20180316065256/@comment-35012729-20180326091544

@Superstar: Lowballing? IIRC, Mario's highest speed feat is reacting to lasers. Still higher than Sonic, but that's the extent I recall.

@Metallic: Oh, nice. A Sonic fan. You are clearly going to be hostile, so I will drop my rebuttals and leave; I shouldn't waste my time here.

The first video is Sonic literally resisting time manipulation. It's hax.

As for the second video... There. Sonic is not FTL. Get that out of here.
 * The "Sega confirmation" is on the back of a pamphlet and uses the Guinness World Record's book to say Sonic is the "fastest video game character of all time." Which is false beyond belief; countless characters can move in the absence of time and space. It's not reliable, nor was it specifically made by Sega themselves. They don't administer every tiny little thing.
 * The "good research" bit doesn't confirm anything. Like, at all! It's literally just Lizuka complimenting the fan on the research, he did not say that it was all accurate.
 * In Sonic Colors, Sonic was passively amped by the Wisps. They enter him at countless points in the story, and the Cyan Laser text even outright says that Sonic feels bursting with more power. There is no evidence they suddenly left him just so he could escape a black hole, especially considering he used them moments before to defeat the boss. It should also be noted he didn't even fully escape it. The Omega thing is false; likely hyperbole, but Sonic was amped, so it doesn't matter. Furthermore, Sonic's arrogant; his "enthusiasm" isn't reliable, and next, Omega says he may eventually exceed lightspeed. He literally says "at this rate." And the last one is an outlier, because he's restoring time and space in a place where none exists. He has no other feats that high, and definitely doesn't scale to Time Eater. Considering his Smash trophy for Super Sonic says he can nearly reach lightspeed, that's the speed he's likely at.