Talk:Darth Vader VS Doctor Doom/@comment-76.16.122.255-20150610001359/@comment-4450205-20150610003024

You've got some good logic here, but Vader is a tactician easily on par with Doom, with his throwing objects to distract opponents and mental torture and taunting. Hell, Vader's main method of attack is analyzing his opponents' capabilities and countering them with his own. Also, while debatable, lightsabers are known to penetrate nearly anything, and Doom's armor may be on that list. Even if not, Vader could telekinetically crush Doom's organs without even touching his armor. Vader's armor is not indestructable, but it sure as hell is durable. Vader has been torched, cut, shocked, and taken grenades point blank without injury to his armor. He's even shrugged off light lightsaber hits. On a side note, because of the sheer amount of pain Vader faced on Mustafar, he can shrug off pain on just about every level.