Talk:Ryu VS Scorpion/@comment-4709838-20141109190853/@comment-25430354-20141109195416

1. Those who work at Death Battle aren't here.

2. The animation doesn't determine who wins or loses, nitpicking it will get you nowhere. But Scorpion has shown he can throw the spear at different angles during trailers and different parts of the MK games. The stun Scorpion had on Ryu didn't impact the fight at all.

3. Dodging point blank bullets doesn't mean he's able to dodge every attack of a fighter, as they've said Ryu has lost to other fighters. Scorpion also has intense speed. Reptile's shown to dodge bullets and he lost to Johnny Cage (Non canon movie aside) Cage would likely lose to Scorpion.

4. Ryu hardly has any experience with the Shun Goku Satsu. Many are debating if Evil Ryu is even canon, the story doesn't say if Evil Ryu's ever even used the Raging Demon to kill someone, the only time Evil Ryu's impacted Ryu's result in a fight is when he shoryukened Sagat in the chest.

5. Ryu's never canonically defeated Shin Akuma.

6. Beating a combatant who knows a number of styles doesn't stop him from losing to people who only know one. Bison's also defeated Seth, and defeated Ryu. I'm not denying that Ryu's a better fighter than Scorpion, but with Scorpion's speed, teleportation (With Evil Ryu's it's obvious where he's going), that he can't die to physical attacks, and the fact that he could bring Ryu to hell whenever he wanted to and teleport him into a pool of lava, the odd's are more in his favor. Sometimes pure skill isn't enough to win in Death Battle depending on the opponent.

7. Technically Scorpion has shown the ability to shoot fire out of his hands which is amplified in the Neatherrealm. Though if you're not satisfied with that, you could always go by the 16 fatalities Scorpion has to finish him off.