Talk:Metal Sonic VS Zero/@comment-30508636-20170617181632/@comment-30508636-20170619222259

1- Even in cutscenes Sonic never shows FTL speeds. I can pick up a megaman cutscene in which light speeds are clearly shown, but not in Sonic.

In almost all the cutscenes always shows him running at maximum at hypersonic speeds. It's impossible to do gameplay with FTL speeds, but making the sonic run more than a truck is not impossible. The truck reached him easily even in super status.

2- There are several proofs that dark hold is FOR EVERYTHING:

First: Dark dizzy manages to stop X and Zero, even though they have no vulnerability. If you say that it is because dark dizzy has more experience with this skill, then I say that even if you use the ultimate X armor (which improves all special skills by 2x), yet the bosses do not keep stopping, which proves that It's just a gameplay mechanic.

Second: Even if you still refuse to believe, know that dark hold is effective against SPEED RUNNERS, such as quick man, skyver and of course, sonic and metal sonic because they are runners as well. Which means that any dark hold  has to stop metal sonic and maybe even slow his defense, like it happen in the game.

3- It does not matter, it is not canon, therefore it should not be considered. And if you want to consider it as a cannon, remember that metla sonic dies in that movie. Information is practically a feat, is not canon, the information should not be used.

4- If sonic metal manages to copy everything then how sonic defeated it? I mean, metal sonic lives losing to sonic. If he can copy absolutely the entire opponent he would be unbeatable, but no, he lives being defeated, which means he is nerfed in the game! And if it's nerfed then it has to be nerfed in DB as well.

5- DR WEIL created omega just to kill Zero as his main goals, so it's obvious he knows everything about the zero body's and programmed omega to know it too. Omega knows the weaknesses of Zero in the same way zero knows. But this has nothing to do, zero has no weaknesses.