Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20171003210326/@comment-26374068-20171006234354

1. I.Q. doesn't matter if your opponent is unfeasibly stronger than you. Unless he has sheer power to back it up, all he'll find out is that Mario will one-shot him. Also, Mario has electrokinesis, too.

2. Mario has longevity, capable of living literally 10,000 years in Super Mario Galaxy before dying of old age. Whatever Clockwork accelerated to death, if it's a normal man, there's absolutely no guarantee that it'd work on Mario. Also, are you comparing Clockwork's speed to Zoom's? Cause that's entirely not the case. Similar abilities =/= same effects. While it's possible he can slow time, if Mario is already hilariously faster (which he is), then all it'll do is even out the gap. Which Mario can then widen again with an ability like Hero's Sight or with his Battle Cards. Also, Mario can be faster than Flash, or even with him, or slower. All depends on the Mario. I always use composite in debates, though.

3. Holding up a planet? Some of the weaker Marios beat that by a long shot, honestly. And what do you mean by "spinning him up real fast"? And how exactly does that require prep time? From how it sounds, you hit him hard enough that the slime flies off his body, right? In that case, all Mario needs is F.L.U.D.D. Using that, he's exerted well over 40,000psi through water alone, and has immense washing power. Shoot, he could outright punch him with enough joules to do the same thing.

4. I doubt much faster than Mario, and as I said, Mario counters intangibility easily. Flying can be useful, but Mario has several power-ups that enable flight, not to mention the dozens of projectiles he has.

5. Mario has literally tanked and outran black holes before, so that's not an issue. Also, such a feat is completely invalid without context; how fast was this guy he beat without even reacting? How strong was he? Also, Mario has resisted things that would erase him, like, three times before. Dream Team, Paper Mario 64 and Super Paper Mario. And Mario has also defeated exact copies of himself, including himself in the flesh, before. Memory M, Dreamy Mario, Doopliss, Shadoo, and so on. Neither of those things will help Alien X.