Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20171003210326/@comment-30870165-20171009015942

TheMetallicBlur wrote: Metal Mario875 wrote: 2. No, we're really not. Apply Physics how they would work with us to fiction, but disregard natural limitations. THAT'S how it works. By your logic, Sonic cannot go faster than 2mph because he's a hedgehog. Stop downplaying.

3. Which Mario can do... He's spun numerous times before during attacks. And do you really think Mario is dumb enough to let himself get hit even once by Ben? Your logic works both ways—it's not that he's dumb, it's purely becuase Mario is more than capable of landing a hit on him. Also, Clockwork could maybe follow Mario, but he still can't stop reality warping, transmutation nor wish granting. And that's because Death Battle keeps them in-character, but willing to kill. Ben isn't, like, not going to kill Mario. Never said that. I'm saying that, by character, Mario will try to kill Ben first.

4. Pardon? Radioactive energy, or, nuclear energy is the energy of the particles inside the nucleus of an atom. It is literally energy. Mario has not only destroyed souls, which are theoretically energy, but has manipulated energy. They're all the same thing. Shit, the fact that Mario has a way of rearranging particles completely destroys NRG.

5. Okay, and? Mario has fought plenty who strategize as well. And what's stopping Alien X from doing that? Because he can influence movements, not force them. There is a difference, and Mario has plenty of willpower to get past that. Besides, again... What's stopping Mario from bursting him into particles, vaporizing him, wishing him out of existence, warping him from existence, transmuting him into lifeless gold, or anything else for that matter? You keep bringing up things Ben can use, but hardly any of them actually help. With all these things Mario can do, plus his superior stats, PLUS his superior willigness to kill, and there's virtually nothing Ben can do to win.

2. Mario is still human. Time is necessary to move. Without time, there is no movement. This is why anyone gets frozen by Chaos Control. and for the record, you're one to talk about downplaying Mr. I think Sonic's +MFTL  speed is an outlier even though Mario beats a Multiversal while he's never done that and Wario is faster than Super Shadow or that Super Sonic can get hyperthermia.

3. I may not know how fast Mario can spin, but I doubt it'll be as fast as a blender. He can literally age Mario backwards if he needs to. And for the record, there is such a thing as enveloping your opponent. And unless Mario is as heavy as a planet, him escaping Goop is impossible.

4. So you're telling me that Mario can control NRG? Wow do you know he's controlled living energy that's NOT metaphysical? Ya don't.

5. Did I say influence? I meant force. Like when he forced the Amalgam Kids and the Rooters to fight each other.

6. All that haxxy stuff you said Mario can do doesn't sound like something he would use against Ben Tennyson because he doesn't now who Ben Tennyson is or if he's even a threat. If we wanna go by prep-time, Ben can just go Alien X from the get-go and stay that way by using the Life-Form Lock, a feature that locks Ben into a single transformation without timing out should the situation call for it. Mario being of the human species doesn't mean anything. If he's shown he can move through time, he can. Even if I don't think he can, it holds up. Why? CUZ FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. I don't know what Metal has done, but you are downplaying regardless of what others have done.

LOL, with Mario's speed, he'd outpace a blender easily. Mario is also far above Planet level, so busting out of Goop is mere child's play.

Does it really matter? Mario can hurt NRG and is still far superior as well.

Do they have the willpower to resist literally getting erased via wish? Last time I checked, no.

That's....no. If we're gonna abuse morals and techniques, then Alien X would prolly never come out.