Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26934487-20190623161059/@comment-39011293-20190907020551

Fetta-phantom1900 wrote: personally, I think fiction should stop trying to turn villains into heroes as much as they have, some writers can make it work (such as how iredemable did it) but many times they utterly fail at it.

on that note I think writers need to stop with the "talk kwon do" unless they can do it well without overdoing it (basically a character convinces the villain of the error of their ways just by the power of words, it can actually work in limited quantities and can bennefit the story but it can easily mess the story up as well).. Basically Steven Universe in a nutshell, and Naruto to a lesser extent.