Talk:Smokey VS McGruff/@comment-31611361-20170917103751/@comment-32295718-20170917105410

Firstly, I don't think that the manga counts as canon for Super, because it comes out way after the anime.

Secondly, Goku's Hakai is way less effective than Beerus', given that Zamasu didn't die in an instant and managed to get out of it by forcing Goku to stop it.

Thirdly, Goku should be above of many versions of Superman, but not all of them, and those who are above Goku are way above him, so Goku still looses.