Talk:Yang Xiao Long VS ???/@comment-26458478-20151004212827/@comment-2255534-20151004220345

To be beat Superman in his prime (the version used for both Goku vs Superman fights), being straight up stronger wouldn't work, since no one can be stronger. Even magic would only hurt him, not kill him. The only way to pull it off is by taking away his sun, use kryptonite, or have god-like powers.

In other words: You have to cheat.

As for characters like Archie Sonic or Shulk, for them to beat Superman, they would have to use those god-like powers, both examples of which would completely disregard their actual characters to the point that you can't even say Sonic or Shulk were even fighting Superman. They'd basically have to double cheat.