Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20171003210326/@comment-26374068-20171009051136

2. Mario being human doesn't matter. Fiction doesn't care. And Mario and Sonic feats are for another day—but Sonic never had an MFTL+ feat to begin with. The only one he did have was, at max, MFTL, and it was debunked in two different ways, dulling its authenticity. I say it's an outlier because Sonic has continuity and has never been confirmed to have no consistency, nor is he necessarily inconsistent. He needs consistent feats. Mario, on ther other hand, has no continuity and was confirmed to not have consistency, plus, he's hilariously inconsistent. So he can have separate keys for his lowest and highest feats varying from game to game.

3. Mario is immensely faster than a blender. And aging him backwards requires him to transform into Clockwork and successfully hit him. And like Clock said—Mario dwarfs Planet level, so Goop is nothing for him.

4. Doesn't matter if NRG can manipulate energy too. What does matter is that Mario can manipulate and destroy his body not just through hax but A.P. as well.

5. Clock makes a good point. But also, forcing separate people to fight each other is different from forcing one person to commit suicide. We can't be sure he can do much outside of heighten violent intent unless we've got statements. Do you have those?

6. Mario doesn't care if you're a threat or not. He decided to turn a Goomba into gold because he was in his way. Like I said—Mario is far more willing to kill. He doesn't care whether you're a true threat or not—he doesn't underestimate. For him, it's “attack the enemy and destroy them.” That's his objective in a fight.