Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-27177230-20180823175406/@comment-16919137-20181128234347

So from what I know....

Roshi loses to Fate, Rae, Mario, and Ultron. If the Matrix doesn't scale to Optimus' durability, then Roshi kills him. If it does, then Roshi is below Optimus

Also, assuming Darkseid wins against Thanos? Darkseid's true form gave a thumbs down to reality andliterally cracked space time,fell across the multiverse, dragged the multiverse , and almost became one with the multiverse , along with basically being omnipresent. He would casually annihilate every other combatant with no trouble.

Now, if we assume Thanos wins (which is very, VERY wrong), then that boils down to what is given to him. Base Thanos isn't much better than most Thor tiers. I'd say he'd probably lose to Ultron due to the latter's durability, borderline intangibility with the molecular rearranger, and infection.

I honestly think Thanos will be getting the Infinity Gauntlet, despite it being non-standard. If he wins with that, then... the Infinity Gauntlet is superior to the Ultimate Nullifier, and that fucking thing scares Galactus , AKA Mr. "I've-matched-multiversal-abstract-entities-in-combat."

Needless to say...

-If Darkseid wins, he solos every other winner with ease.

-If Thanos wins and he doesn't have the Gauntlet, then he stops at Ultron.

-If Thanos wins and he has the Gauntlet, then he wins with ease.