Talk:Amy VS Ramona/@comment-28653927-20160930221819/@comment-27058070-20160930222101

I just posted this, but it's posted on a long thread and I don't want it to get lost. Here's my opinions on the matter... again. Will probably be the only time I do this (posting the same thing twice), but this isn't a stomp in Amy's favor and I want that to be clear for everyone.

Ramona wins, and quite easily at that. Not only is Ramona Continent Level, but she has capabilities in martial arts, sword training, hammer training, and close-quarters-combat that Amy does not have. Amy has experience fighting villains alongside Sonic, but her greatest contributions are  from a non-canon Sonic Boom. Other than that, Amy has always just stood there and did nothing (not counting Archie comics ofc). Even her greatest feats in the games contribute from help with her teammates (Team Rose; Team Sonic regulars; Sonic Boom).

Meanwhile, Ramona has held her own before and can kick ass without Scott Pilgrim. And that's not even mentioning her subspace. Her subspace is something of an alternate dimension, giving Ramona a near infinite arsenal. If that's not enough, Ramona can go into her own subspace dimension and travel anywhere in an instant. What is 10 miles is only 10 feet in the Subspace. IIRC, Ramona can bring people there and it basically bypasses all durability and a home-field advantage. So an infinite arsenal and a counter to Amy's speed. That, and her superhuman abilities. Her only issues are controlling her emotions, which can also give her another advantage with The Glow.

Scott Pilgrim VS The World is a comic first, a movie second, and a game third. But if they use a composite from all three, as they probably will do for Amy, Ramona has no troubles at all. Like... none. Maybe she'll get speed blitz at the start. Maybe she loses in durability. Maybe.

TL;DR:

Ramona

+ Strength (Continent Level)

+ Subspace counters all of Amy's advantages in speed and hax

+ Ramona's hammer does more damage to girls. (yes, this is a thing)

+ Has shown to be more independent than Amy ever has.

+ Don't get me started on the Power of Love and The Glow.

+ If they use composite Ramona, and give her the abilities to fight all the Evil Ex's... gg Amy. gg

+ Smarter

= if DB doesn't use scaling, then they are par in raw strength.

- Natural speed against Amy

- Experience against Amy

- Emotions

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<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">Amy 

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">+ Natural Speed

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">+ Experience

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">+ Smarter (if they use Sonic Boom Amy, which I doubt)

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">= if DB doesn't use scaling, then they are par in raw strength

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">- Weaker

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">- Never has held her own that well without Team Sonic or her friends

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">- No counter to subspace

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;">- No special powers to put her over the edge