Talk:Darth Vader VS Doctor Doom/@comment-4450205-20150627161102/@comment-4450205-20150627175946

I think they're a tad harder when they ambush you and there are 20-30 of them, especially if you are in the middle of a drastic change that forces you to retool everything. Vader killed all of them when his lightabser style was still being developed, by Jedi strong enough to use Force Cloak to hide their signatures and intentions from the fallen Chosen One.