Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20170606023747/@comment-26374068-20170625210913

@Blur: The comments were disagreeing, but in no way were they debunking anything. Mario has no canon, as we all know. But he also has a loose continuity. Nintendo never cared about making a canon nor setting up a different continuity. The series and its characters, as Miyamoto describes in his interview, are similar to cartoons of the old days where characters, regardless of the setting or situation they are in, are still the same character. He goes as far as to reference Popeye as inspiration, and states that he looks at the characters as "a troupe of actors." When you see an actor in a movie, he can go from being a concept to being a physical being in the same movie. He's an actor, he can do whatever.

This is not counting the endless references and full-on confirmations that WAY outnumber Paper Jam, stating Paper Mario is the same. Here they are: There's more, too. Such as the Paper Mario series referencing the regular Mario series, even after Paper Jam's release.
 * Goomboss' second appearance after Paper Mario 64 was Super Mario 64 DS, where he locks up the regular Mario and states, "That Mario always stomps on us. But now the tables have turned! I locked him up in a room." This references Paper Mario 64, where he first became a king thanks to Bowser and the Star Rod. He then swore to Mario that he'd get revenge, which is exactly what happened in Super Mario 64 DS.
 * Toadette's SSBB trophy description (Scroll down a bit) describes her as the same exact character in Mario Kart: Double Dash and Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.
 * Star Hill appears in three games: Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario 64 and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time.
 * The Star Spirits reappear in Mario Party 5.

Critic "debunked" the blog by saying that Paper Mario is akin to the regular Mario and vice versa, thus, they have likely had each other's adventures? Well, then that means Mario has already went on his own TTYD and SPM adventures, huh? '''Horrible argument. That was stated by no one ever. Don't suggest something that was never stated.''' What was stated? Well, the fact that Paper Mario is literally a form of Mario's, according to the back of TTYD's case. Everything beforehand proves it, as well.

Nintendo has done this to Dry Bowser and Bowser, as we know. It's an inconsistency, but Paper Mario and Mario isn't? How, when it's literally confirmed by Nintendo themselves they do this type of stuff just to make a game? They are all on their own continuity, multiple descriptions have Mario from a different series separate despite him being the same character. Mario is confusing as it is. Things like PiT, MP5, etc. prove it, but Paper Jam contradicts it. If I was saying that they weren't canon then games like Dr. Mario wouldn't even matter, unless Miyamoto confirms that Mario isn't the same one as any other game we can't really say he's not different from the others. Nintendo is not always reliable when it comes to confirmation. They have a male character changed from the creator's personal view despite the character being still considered a male in its origins. Thus, Mario has no canon. He's Mario, period.

There are even more contradictions, like between the Yoshi's Island games, and more. I've heard you say "How can Mario be the same as Paper Mario when they're on the screen together?" They can because Mario has also been on-screen with Baby Mario and Dr. Mario before, yet it's pretty damn unanimous those three are the same guy.

To bring it home... Miyamoto himself considers Mario as Mario, regardless of what role he takes up. He could become "Ball Mario" the next game, and unless Miyamoto himself comes out and says that he's different, his last statement still stands.