Talk:Goku VS Superman 2/@comment-14017325-20160406151545/@comment-14017325-20160411143548

dragon ball super hasn't finished yet and goku is still growing. goku's maxmimum feat doesn't need to be shown cos like i said superman broke the system. if you break the system, the whole thing shuts down and the opponent cannot be measured because of it.

goku did became a god in his franchise. however he still lost after getting it. that shows he still has and always a limit and that is his downfall against superman. that is not gonna change any time soon.

if you count gt go ahead. but its not the first time he's done that. he put his hand on gohan's shoulder when trunks was going back to the future after cell was destroyed when he was dead. what happened in gt is that he gave his positive type life force to shenron as to restore the dragon balls after the shadow dragons though it took a century. he died afterwards.

but that doesn't mean he can't see whats happening on the earth from otherworld. after all he hangs around with the kais. his energy was felt by gohan during the final beam struggle against cell. its not the same as being alive. the difference is when he's dead everyone will come to him eventually and spend eternity together with him in the otherworld. that will be his eternal happiness.

though goku's origin is similar to supes. he doesn't feel the constant sadness of being alone and never seeing his race again like clark does. when he did found out his origins from raditz, he was horrified at what the saiyans were like. so he hasn't felt the curse of immortality. like superman has.

goku's feats will never be accurately detailed because dragon ball heavily abuses cinematic time and is constantly incosisstant because unlike DC falls on one man; akira toriyama. even in the manga. as it was pointed out before.

because superman has reached the pinnacle. there will never be a third battle. because one man will always have a wall to breakthrough and will always fall against a being who has infinite power from the start. that's how death battle does it.