Talk:Roshi VS Jiraiya/@comment-26915466-20181129022927/@comment-26915466-20181130050525

Because you're trying to downplay, period. Saying it was Beerus alone doing so like through "Hakai hax" is headcanon. They hit with physical punches. Especially given what we've seen in the actual canon, like Buuhan screaming powerfully enough to rip through space-time, and then Gogeta recently punching Broly into another dimension. That they are universe busters should be beyond doubt when the narrator confirms it, it's in both manga and anime, and Toriyama's intent is that he wants them to be universe busters. I won't highball like Seth, but calling them galaxy busters is an extreme lowball.