Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20170616233845/@comment-31816534-20170907192145

AnglsFire478 wrote: TheMetallicBlur wrote: AnglsFire478 wrote: TheMetallicBlur wrote: Clockworx wrote: TheMetallicBlur wrote: AnglsFire478 wrote: TheMetallicBlur wrote: Clockworx wrote: This has been flooding my notifications for weeks and I just wanna say that I think Luigi is the most likely victor here. Tails' main thing here is speed and smarts. But his smarts are rarely that useful in battle. Tails may be able to pinpoint Luigi's weaknesses and is a little less predictable, but that could only do so much especially with Luigi's superior power. As for Tails' speed, he may be able to keep up with casual Sonic but when Sonic is at his fastest, Tails would be left in the dust. Though, I'd still consider Tails FTL. MFTL possibly. Luigi's FTL as well, but to a lesser extent. But his MFTL reactions are surely enough to keep Tails' small speed advantage at bay. With that out of the way, Luigi dominates Tails in sheer power, strength and durability. And his arsenal would surely prove more useful. Tails' abilities are less predictable as said before, but he's pretty outclassed when it comes down to things. So, yeah. Luigi has the edge here.

Being outclassed doesn't matter if you counter everything your opponent throws at you.

Luigi Cyclone < Typhoon

Green Missile < Tails Swipe

Super Jump Punch < Reflexes

Negative Zone < Shield Bot and Flight

Thunderhand < Energy Ball arm cannon

Poltergust < Tinker

Stats < Scan, Flash Grenade.

Also, how does Luigi have MFTL reactions? You might say " It comes from the Launch Star.", but I can move my arm while on a roller coaster, but I can't react at those speeds.

i swear to god that you're gonna break my limits, your downplaying are making my brain cry

not only that you show Little of Luigi moves but you also assume that he don't have MFTL Reaction

Luigi have like a lot of moves i already list them in a comment i Made, while Tails might counter most of Luigi's Moves but in a hand to hand combat (A.K.A Punching and kicking) Tails are fucked anyway you can't dodge the Negative zone as along as your entered the effects get you (A.K.A Sleeping, unstoopable Taunting, poisons etc.), it' doesn't if Tails can Counter ThunderHand because he still have his Energy Balls also Luigi can Control bodies with his ThunderHand so GG Tails, for fuck sake stop with the Scan put this in your tight fucking skull Y O U    C A N ' T    S C A N    S O M E O N E    W H O   H A V E    N O    W E A K    S P O T S   the wikia itself said it sometimes the Scan Can't work

Luigi have MFTL Reaction by Dodging Lasers here's a list :

Hoohooros:

https://youtu.be/MPP5KIkeflc?t=17s

Cackletta's Soul:

https://youtu.be/8BYP4EkdkXg?t=10m21s

Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story Dark Star :

https://youtu.be/XYSFA21szD0?t=4m56s

https://youtu.be/XYSFA21szD0?t=3m22s

https://youtu.be/XYSFA21szD0?t=5m33s

https://youtu.be/MPP5KIkeflc?t=17s

https://youtu.be/tphC5wSInWc?t=26m26s

Pi'llodium:

https://youtu.be/x_rClxZaQJU?t=7m46s 1. Just because his weak spots haven't been exposed doesn't mean he doesn't have any. He's still a human. 2. So he's beat in hand to hand, eh? Bet you don't know that in hand to hand, he beat Knuckles the Echidna.

3. Haven't you noticed how characters can survive negative Zone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIEGbpthU7M skip to 0:30

4. Tails can react to lasers as seen in Sonic Colors.

5. Everything was lasers, onochromatic light. Not faster than light. Counter? Tails doesn't counter Luigi. They match each other almost blow for blow. Luigi's offensive game is way better while Tails has a better defense game. But since Luigi outclasses Tails, Tails loses. Simple as that. And how dare you call Luigi a human. I know technically that's his species, but it just feels wrong. Tails doesn't counter Luigi? WRONG!!!!

Tails can counter the Luigi Cyclone with the Typhoon since it's also a spinning move and lasts longer.

Tails can counter the Green Missile with the Tails Swipe by delfecting it.

Tails can counter the super Jump Punch with his reflexes becasue in order for the super Jump Punch to work, Luigi has to directly hit Tails and considering how mobility is one of Tails' strong points, yeah I'm thinking that the Super Jump Punch will be hard to land.

Tails can counter the Negative Zone with his flight and Shield Bot because in order to maneuver, you need to be able to fly and Tails' tails are pretty much like Pit's wings of Palutena. You also need a shield to proect yourself. Hey, Tails has a shield bot.

Tails can counter Thunderhand wth Energy Ball because his arm cannon shoots lasers, which are monochromatic light, while Luigi fires lightning. and everyone knows that light is faster than lightning.

Tails can counter the Poltergust with Tinker by sabotaging the device and possibly rigging it to explode. it's not my rules ya cucc, it's the rules of debating everyone know it

Listen here m8 those thing has already been debunked, he does counter some moves but does it matter he have load shit of other moves to work with and again Luigi is universal

Scaling and levels are not the deciding factor. By that logic, Bowser should've killed off Luigi by now.

Yeah, but the moves Tails can counter are moves that Luigi is more comfortable bringing into battle. And Tails has an entire lot of moves that can prove to be a force. actually it is, also Bowser is not able to kill luigi because he's not that good at strategies, but i might say luigi does counter Bowser in a lot of things

again listen here, what does he counter : The green Missel, Super Jump Punch, Luigi Cyclone, Thunderhand

and that's it he don't counter the rest also The Poltergust can survive Worse things than explotions so yeah try something else

Luigi have more than thunderhand, he Have Energy attacks so good luck with that

Green Missile gets countered by Tail Swipe.

Super Jump Punch gets countered by mobility.

Luigi Cyclone gets countered by Typhoon.

Thunderhand gets countered by Energy Ball.

Try something else? How about Tinker?

No he does not! And you have no proof!