Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-27177230-20180823175406/@comment-32550629-20190105171553

UniverseAwesome777 wrote: Weebkid64 wrote: UniverseAwesome777 wrote:

Ocarknotin wrote: Oh boy, here we go. Some people will call me biased, some will not, but I don't care I'll give my shot on this. (Also I will not be including Roshi VS Jiraiya cuz well, that hasn't come out yet.)

14. Leon: This ones obvious. He's just a normal human, and I don't like that arguement, but he's just a human with guns. Sure he's been able to push boulders and other large objects, but Sora is star level and that's an unfair matchup.

13. Nightwing: Pretty much everything I said about Leon but he has gadgets... Cool.

12. Samurai Jack:  Again, just Leon but he's a lot more impressive.

11. Ryu: Here's where some stuff I'm not 100% sure. Ryu is an impressive one, able to defeat Akuma who destroyed an entire Island with 1 hit, but Spyro and Mario are just too much for him. Optimus Prime took hits from Megatron who is comparable to Prime, and Prime's matrix destroyed a body of a saturn-sized god. Ryu is just a man who knows Martial Arts.

10. Black Panther: Just Ryu but more powerful. He's human but he's pretty strong. That's it really lol

9. Lucy: Why did I put her above Black Panther? I... Don't know actually. XD Something about Lucy, wether it be her invisible arms or her strength, she's just so impressive and a perfect pick for Death Battle. (Still should've lost to Carnage tho)

8. Kenshiro: Omae Mui Wa Shinderu.

7. Spyro: BEFORE PEOPLE CALL ME BIASED: I grew up with Spyro. I grew up with him and Crash. I played their games so many times. So yeah, I know a lot about Spyro, but is he even near Dr. Fate's Universal level stats? Yeah I'm not sure about that. Sorry Spyro.

6. Raven: Probably not number 6 but Raven is like really REALLY strong. She's probably far higher, but I just don't see how she can stand up to Ultron or Fate.

5. Me: FUCK! Who's 5? OPTIMUS PRIME OR SORA? IDK THEIR TOO STRONG AND IDK WHERE TO PUT THEM

4. Just 5 lol

3. Here's where I start losing friends. Ultron: Why does Season 5 have really good fighters? These guys are just way too strong. It's insane. Ultron is so strong that he's able to take down the Avengers EASILY, and has defeated Thor so many times that it's insane. But more powerful than Mario or even Fate?

2. Dr. Fate: *Gets brick thrown at me* Shit people think I'm biased. I'll explain why  Fate's here at 1 lol

1. Mario: Mario... Mario... Oh Mario. This man. ThismanisjustnotevenFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me debunk this list to display what is and isn't wrong. Most of those Mario feats are non-canon. That excuse about Ultron was confusing as well, he is around the fourth out of the bunch, but can't stand up to Optimus' superiority. Optimus beats Sora, hands down. Raven I agreed with, so kudos on that. Spryo is not even that powerful to be honest, like he can't even beat Kenshiro or Lucy. Yes, I get it. You put him here because you love him and I 100% respect that. Ryu beats T'challa due to the Power of Nothingness, which basically makes Panther's strength useless. I'm just being bias on this one, but I think Dick beats Ja- *gets headshot'd*.

Now about Mario vs Kent. First of all, Fate has ripped apart the multiverse, something Mario is already outclassed on. Like I said before those other feats (sadly not Hotel Mario however) aren't supported by canon material. Nelson has gottten his pysical body demolished and was able to grow it back. He survived Crisis on Infinite Earths, don't even ask about how that makes him OP. And is a reality warper, so he has major hax.

I am fine with you stating your opinion for it isn't a crime, but I just felt as I should debunk it so you could here my personal thoughts about your list. If you have the urge, you as well can debunk mine if you want. Mario has no canon, so any feat (that comes from the game’s at least), counts. Well, mainly I was assuming that the spinoff games weren't canon, for I am pretty sure they aren't. But even so these really don't do much against Doctor Fate so, at least I have some logic behind me. Well, they kinda count because of lack of continuity in Mario.

But I do agree that Fate godstomps Mario to death.