Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-26488478-20160320014236/@comment-16919137-20170626220926

TheMetallicBlur wrote: Zacmariozero wrote: TheMetallicBlur wrote: Silverboy300 wrote:

TheMetallicBlur wrote: Did you just say that Bowser > Mundus? Plus, Turning him into gold won't work if he's constantly teleporting with Trickster Style. Also, Ifrit is more than capable of roasting those plumbers since it burns hotter than a volcano. Also, keep in mind that Mario and Luigi can barely dodge Dante and Vergil's sword swings. Also, Mario and Luigi's invisibility and intangibility won't help since they can't attack either. Also, while you'd like the Wite Tanooki can't be killed because it plows through lava-based enemies, keep in mind that Ifrit produces a flame hotter than a volcano. And if I had to guess, the lava pits are probably hotter than regular lava. Uh, yeah I did. Bowser is stronger than Mundus, especially with the Grand Stars and Dreamy Bowser. Mario has kept up with teleporters before, ahem Kamek/Magikooas, Pom Pom, The Koopalings etc. And why would Dante constantly teleport? He could just try to attack. Ifrit roasting them? I just said Mario can survive being within star surfaces. And Mario survives Bowser's fire, which is hot enough to melt rock.

Mario and Luigi have dodges lasers and lightning, hell, they can even perform actions while being shot by the Bye Bye Cannon, and you can't do shit if you're being shot out at full speed by a cannon. That makes Mario/Luigi Massively Hypersonic-Sub-Relativistic. Dodge sword strikes is no problem, they've done it before they can do it again.

Oh course invisibility and intangibility could help. Even if they can't attack, they still couldn't be harmed. WT Mario has resisted fire before. Especially from Bowser, which I mentioned to be hot enough to melt rock and is probably around 2000 degrees. And even then, Mario has resisted the being within stars which are EVEN much hotter than volcanoes.

So there's that. Oh I'm sorry, but can Bowser make his own pocket dimension? No. can Mundus do that? Yes. Dante constantly attacking means they have an even less chance of winning due to his piercing weaponry. If Pokemon VS Digimon taught me anything, it's that sometimes, even piercing weaponry can bring down the mightiest foe. Also, you're gonna tell me that melting rock is better than fire hotter than a volcano? Plus, Ifrit can be charged to do some mega damage. Plus, I probably could do things in a cannon if the destination was far away. That's literally the case for Mario and Luigi. Also, dodging sword swings moving that fast won't exactly be easy. They can only do that for so long. Intangibility and invisiblity will just prolong the inevitable. Dante and Vergil aren't anywhere near fast enough to hit Mario and Luigi. And, again, NONE of their weaponry can hurt Mario and Luigi due to the gap in DC and Durability, no matter if it's sharp or not. I don't care if it's a gun or a blade, those things are only town-country level. Mario and Luigi are MSS to potentially Multi-Galaxy, which basically means those weapons aren't doing shit.

Also, Bowser >>>> Mundus. Hell, via DC, Durability, Speed, and Hax, Bowser (Along with the Plumbers) could solo DMC. 1. Do they need to be that fast since they can use Quicksilver style?

2. So basically you're saying that a blade won't be able to penetrate Mario and Luigi's skin, despite the fact that their skin isn't rock-hard. No. If they can penetrate and cut Mario and Luigi, which isn't hard because their flash is not rock-hard, they'll have an advantage.

3. Mario and Luigi aren't MSS. Why, because they never show that kind of durability again. Meanwhile, Dante and Vergil are always showing their durability feats.

4. Dante has his Gilgamesh Gauntlets that he can use to be on more even terms with Bros, striking wise.

5. Obviously, you can't even consider how fast that sword is moving. If that sword is being swung in all directions, they're gonna have a hard time dodging. They can dodge lasers, but they can't dodge lasers back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to back.

6. Dante's a lot smarter than you think him to be.

7. Dante also has some form of limited telekinesis, such as when he caught Trish's motorcycle in the first game.

8. Vergil is extremely relentless, so if Luigi or Mario gets hit by one of his comboes, well, good luck. 1. Dante and Vergil get fucking blitzed before that can even happen.

2. Doesn't matter if they've got a skin of fucking steel or not, those blades aren't doing jack shit because they're not strong enough to hurt Mario or Luigi. Come back when Dante or Vergil cut the Hulk.

3. Doesn't matter. It's not an outlier, even if it's a one-off thing, so it applies. Basically, yes, they are MSS.

4. See 1 and 3.

5. See 1.

6. Smarts don't matter when you're THAT outclassed. Pit Tails against Darkseid and tell me how that ends.

7. See 1.

8. See 1.