Talk:Roshi VS Jiraiya/@comment-30574734-20181108013745

Okay so I know everyone is thinking Roshi will win this but I think that Jiraiya can actually take this...

Not easily Ill admit but I think he can win...

For Strength I dont actually know whose stronger...I know that Roshi could match Kid Goku who could push a giant boulder but Jiraiya could kick a giant bull super far in his Sage mode but his giant frog summons are far stronger then both of them...Even his tiny frogs could smash a giant chameleon into the ground effortlessly so I think strength "Kinda" goes to Jiraiya...

I couldnt find any solid speed feats for Jiraiya on his own and I dont really like scaling to other characters so im pretty sure Roshi is faster but with Jiraiya's shadow clone justsu I think he can still keep up...

I think Jiraiya is more durable too...He can get hit with so many different summons, blasts, physical hits, and elemental justsus and come out either fine or with minor damage but bullets have actually hurt roshi and caused him to bleed (granted most head shots with an uzi would do a lot of damage but it takes more to make jiraiya bleed)...(Not counting nosebleeds)...

I know Roshi techniclly has more experience since hes like 300 (I think) but I think he actually spent a lot of that time in isolation on his island...Whereas Jiraiya has more experience fighting more varied opponents with different justus while Roshis opponents are more physical focus with few have new techniques (but not often)...

Strategy wise I believe Jiraiya is better too...He more often studies his opponents and finds weaknesses or opportuniteys mid battle then Roshi does...Roshi is not dumb and mid battle strategy wise hes not bad either but Jiraiya is just better at it...

And yes...I know...Powerwise it is not even close...At least destructive power wise...Itachi said that even with backup he could at best only stalemate him so I think that puts Jiraiya around maybe Mountain buster maybe more...Roshi destroyed the moon...So destructive wise yes Roshi wins...But Jiraiya is more varied and unexpected...Plus Roshi cant rapid fire the MAX Kamehamaha and after he fired the moon busting one was almost out of energy so I dont think he can rapid fire those...

Im not 100 % certain on this and if the result is different then oh well but I think Jiraiya can win this due too Strength, Durability, Strategy, Versitilaty, and some Hax...