Talk:Metal Sonic VS Zero/@comment-30508636-20170617181632/@comment-29378577-20170618044627

Since the team blast thing is just to make the fight interesting, I guess Zero surviving in Lumine's black hole is just gameplay too right? Well I guess since you're using it for feats, I'd say not. They already incorporate the team mechanic into getting around Metal Overlord's attacks, and they could have done a similar thing to damage Metal like in '06, but they specifically chose combining the three super character's powers into one attack to show how powerful Metal Overlord is. The catching Eggman thing was done in Sonic 3 and Knuckles way early in the series before Metal Overlord, and it could just be gameplay. It makes the fight more challenging as a whole, and it separates story from gameplay. Also, considering Eggman's ship was using the Master Emerald as some power source, it could have been going FTL...but probably not. As for Unleashed, he probably was surprised by Eggman's trap, and then thought that whatever Eggman planned he could get out of it anyway, so he didn't think it was overtly necessary to go blazing fast and maybe just casual fast, but still wanted to escape to get out of the trap just in case. After all, in Colors DS, Omega says that Sonic is at FTL speeds in BASE FORM. And Since Metal Sonic is designed to be Base Sonic's equal and is set to appear in Sonic Forces, it's likely that he has been upgraded to keep up with modern Sonic and thus be FTL in base as well.

Although I have a feeling that this won't convince you, since my arguments may be sorta all over the place, but I have one thing that you cannot argue against. Archie Metal Sonic absolutely destroys Zero in any incarnation, including Archie Zero. This is because Archie Metal Overlord is a thing, and it also canonically fought with Super Sonic and super esque Tails and Knuckles. This time, though, Archie Super Sonic is Multiversal level, and Tails and Knuckles are probably around Large Planet Level again. So, it essentially took a Multiversal level character and two large planet level at lowest and Multi Solar system level at highest, combined together, at their absolute strongest, to defeat, not destroy, Metal Sonic. I'm sorry, but I don't think Zero has the power to put someone like that down. Especially when Metal is definitely faster than Zero in this incarnation.