Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-27171598-20160107232605/@comment-38813560-20190830213434

It depends on which version of Ash and Red your using, Kalos Ash can beat the game and origin version of red. While manga Red mops the floor with all versions of Ash excpet Kalos considering that one is really close. Origins Red pretty much gets yeeted by all versions of Ash except for the Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Unova incarnations. Game Red only loses to the Kalos incarnation of Ash and possibly the Sinnoh incarnation.

So in short

Kalos Ash > Game and Origins Red

Kalos Ash  Origins Red

Sinnoh Ash </= Games Red

Sinnoh Ash < Manga Red

Unova, Hoenn, Johto, Kanto < All incarnations of Red