Talk:Naruto VS Ichigo/@comment-32295718-20171024142905/@comment-27379005-20171024161013

^ In my case, I used to be a huge Narutard back then, but then I started to dislike the series for the following reasons:

1. Part 1 Naruto was great because of its story, fights and everyone (not just Naruto and Sasuke) had character development and their own fights. But since Shippuden, all characters other than Naruto and Sasuke have been treated like thrash (even Neji, who was the strongest genin, became just fodder), though Shikamaru and Sakura had their moments against Hidan and Sasori at least, but that's about it.

2. Ever since the later half of Shippuden, the series went from ninjas to freaking sorcerers that spam DBZ-like powers without moving a finger and it's just about Bijuu-Bombs and Susanos.

3. I just dislike how Naruto became from a "I'm gonna kick your butt!" character into a "Talk no jutsu!" character.

4.  And I didn't like how Naruto and Sasuke became so exaggeratedly OP just because of some birth powers. Naruto would have been just around Raikage's or Gaara's level if it wasn't by that imo.

That's just my opinnion though, dunno about Torrian. But maybe some similar reason.