Talk:Metal Sonic VS Zero/@comment-11365739-20170731172152/@comment-30508636-20170829035824

Sonic x may not be canon, but it is based on sonic adventure 1 and 2 and faithfully follows the work with only a few changes. It is very likely that the scale of the characters is identical to that of the game. I'd rather believe in sonic X which showed in a more detailed way how this fight happened.

And in Sonic 3, was that a super transformation or is there another superform?

Knuckles have stopped super sonic with a punch is just one of several inconsistencies.

About vile defeating zero, take into account that was very early zero, without any combat experience and incomplete body. Zero was designed to be a swordsman, so he's no good with ranged-buster attacks as X.

Elpizo killed X cowardly, when he was unconscious, with a powerful light saber. It's like an ordinary human picking up a kryptonite weapon and killing superman when he's unconscious. It will not that make the human being stronger than Superman it will?