Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-33881745-20190421194116/@comment-39801929-20190908150739

Oh, no I was joking haha, it’s fine mate. Hiei should pretty definitely lose to Kiryu I think though. Neosonic97 wrote: >As in, Kiryu in Half-Century War was fighting on-par with Godzilla.

You know this line of thinking causes the whole Godzilla verse to be a big mess of scaling, right? Literally EVERY Kaiju has, at one point or another, fought Godzilla and held their own. They're obviously not all planet-level. Also, again. When Kiryu fought Godzilla in the Half-Century War, it did so by trying to hold Godzilla still so it couldn't escape the Black Hole created by the Dimension Tide. It did succeed at that job, but it got torn apart by the force of the Black Hole in trying to do so (And the Dimension Tide didn't even kill Godzilla, at that).

It's not even consistent because, as I stated again, every time a MechaGodzilla, regardless of whether it's Kiryu, Heisei or M.O.G.U.E.R.A., goes up against SpaceGodzilla, it always ends up barely avoiding being destroyed, (Assuming it DOES avoid destruction that is), and that's WITH Godzilla assisting it! Just because you personally think it’s a mess doesn’t completely invalidate it. It’s not Marvel or DC. Kiryu in Half-Centruy War was straight up physically harming Godzilla at the end if you pay attention the comic, and it’s consistent as he wasn’t also dealing serious physical damage to Ghidorah just pages earlier, who again was brawling with Godzilla. Even if he wasn’t, the ability to even hold Godzilla in place next to a black hole proves his strength. Godzilla, in-turn, was straight up physically brawling with SpaceGodzilla just an issue earlier. The scaling seems pretty direct to me, and this also applies completely to Ongoing. Godzilla wrestles with Spacegodzilla. in their first encounter, Kiryu wrestled with Godzilla in their first encounter. A=B=C. On it’s own, you could argue it’s inconsistent. But it’s supported by various other media, see the planet-level feat in the pachinko games, Kiryu defeating Destoroyah (explicitly Heisei Godzilla’s most powerful foe) elsewhere, lasting next to a black hole in Half-Century War.

If all that isn’t enough to convince you, then I don’t think I’ll ever be able to convince you mate lol.