Talk:Mario VS Sonic 2/@comment-26987161-20180926223231/@comment-31067519-20180926230759

Hasn't Mario also gotten stronger? He's accumulated much stronger feats over the years, and has also gotten many more power-ups, specifically the White Tanooki suit which seems to be the basis for why some people want a rematch, as well as Cappy (although given Sonic's speed, not sure how much Cappy can really help). Not to mention that Death Battle doesn't seem to view the Archie Comics - which are pretty much all of Sonic's best feats - as actual canon and conflicts with the games, such as stating in Metal Sonic VS Zero that Sonic has no light-speed feats barring the use of power-ups "in-canon", which implies that they don't count the comic lore. In case people are wondering, they likely included Amy surviving being crushed by a boulder in the comics because that didn't contradict the main games' canon of what she can do (similarly to how they included feats for Frank West from a non-canon version of his franchises' second game as they too didn't contradict his canon limits), unlike many of Sonic's feats.

Such logic would also remove the Ultra Sonic form, which so far seems to be the strongest form Sonic has and the best to use against the White Tanooki suit's powers, whereas many of Mario's best feats do happen in the main games (to be fair, they probably won't include Paper Mario feats for the same reasons as the Archie Comics). This battle has much more to do with power usage than physical stats themselves. Sonic definitively has gotten stronger over each battle... but so has Mario, and his arsenal seems to have widened much more broadly than Sonic's has in their canon games. We can't know for sure exactly what the team will decide to include and exclude from their research - and boy, is there a lot to go through - but I'm taking the opinion that Mario will win. Either way, we'll have to wait until October 17th (or 15th for First members) to finally end it.