Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-1217510-20190818001245

Hey! First time posting here; thought this could make for an interesting matchup and wanted to see what other people thought. I recently checked out the Star Trek: Voyager two-parter Scorpion. Being a huge Babylon 5 fan, I thought the species introduced in those episodes, the Undine (aka Species 8472), shared some striking similarities with B5's Shadows, and I thought they could make for a good army vs. army Death Battle, similar to Eggman vs. Wily.

Since I'm new here, I'm not too familiar with formats for these things, so I apologize in advance if this format is a little bloated.



Similarities
Mysterious, telepathic, immensely powerful alien races that use biomechanoid warships.

Shadows

 * Telepathy
 * Invisibility (but can be seen with certain infrared imaging systems)
 * Strong enough to tear through Vorlon encounter suits
 * Resistant to energy weapons (but not immune)

Undine

 * Telepathy
 * Strong enough to tear apart Borg bulkheads
 * Can infect victims with their own cells
 * This can be done simply by breaking the victim's skin
 * Undine cells rapidly spread and consume the victim from within
 * Extremely strong immune system

Shadows

 * Shadow Vessels
 * Crew of only 1 organic being as their CPU
 * Variable size
 * Speed unknown; able to keep up with the White Star
 * Able to phase in and out of hyperspace without jumpgates
 * Strong enough to resist most conventional weapons
 * Took 4 x-ray laser cannons from 2 Narn heavy cruisers focused on a single point of a Shadow Vessel for a few seconds to do any damage
 * Armaments:
 * Can deploy a cluster of autonomous fighters
 * Disruptor blasts can destabilize and collapse jumpgates
 * "Molecular Slicer"
 * Strong force beam with a range of ~12 miles; used as a highly accurate and precise cutting tool; destroys matter on a subatomic level (contrary to its name)
 * Can telepathically scream into enemies' minds
 * Can engulf and disable smaller ships
 * Bio-genetic nanovirus
 * Artificial plague used to wipe out entire species
 * Keepers
 * Engineered parasites used to control people
 * Death Cloud
 * Nano-tech nebula used to engulf enemy fleets and planets
 * Controlled from an invisible superstructure defended by short-range cannons
 * Drains heat from enemy ships and disables their jump capabilities
 * Can materialize thousands of drill-dipped multi-megaton thermonuclear devices, each capable of destroying a capital ship; missiles can burrow through a planet's crust before detonating in its mantle, effectively turning it inside out

Undine

 * Bio-ships
 * One pilot each
 * Made of the same flesh and bone as the Undine themselves, and share their strengths and weaknesses
 * Healing factor
 * Immune to sensors and tractor beams
 * Antimatter-based warp propulsion system
 * Capable of keeping up with and overtaking Borg cubes (warp 9.9+ IIRC)
 * Armaments:
 * Directed energy weapon capable of shredding Borg cubes with ease
 * Energy-focusing ship
 * Special bio-ship; when working in tandem with 8 normal bio-ships, it can fire a beam that can destroy a planet

Shadows

 * Vulnerable to sustained fire from weapons like Centauri rifles
 * Molecular Slicer does not function properly in hydrogen-rich atmospheres
 * Vessels can be disrupted by strong telepaths
 * However, weaker telepaths cannot scan Shadow Vessels without going insane
 * While all of their ships are highly resilient, their fighters are extremely vulnerable to Vree cruisers' antimatter weapons; this likely applies to all other ships, as they are made of the same material

Undine

 * Nanotech must be specifically designed to destroy them on a cellular level, but they are effectively helpless against that kind of weapon 