Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20171003210326/@comment-25620113-20171007022353

Eh. That speedscaling is a bit too convuluted for my taste. Speed scaling relies on the assumption that both combatants are going at top speed. Sure the starship can move at those speeds but was it moving at those speeds when Bowser tagged it (and going by what you said Bowser didn't even move at those speeds, the meteors did) and then if so, was Bowser moving at those speeds when fighting Mario? This scaling relies on an assumption of an assumption. I mean you can continue believing that he can but there's nothing you can do to make me believe that so I'm just going to hope we can agree to disagree on this point.

Eh, the background really isn't that good of a point to make. A similar background appeared during Alien X and Galactic Gladiator's fight and just like the case here, the galaxies appeared and disappeared. I'll take it as a universe because of Luigi's character statement but character statements should be taken with a grain of salt. Multiple people within the Ben 10 universe believe Celestialsapiens are omnipotent and "can do anything" including Azmuth the smartest person in thre (arguably 5) galaxies but that doesn't make it so. It could be a universe but it could also be a hyperbole. I'm going to assume it is a universe.

Yeah but going by what you said Mario won't even need them for this fight.