Talk:Wario VS Dedede/@comment-3391158-20190419093803/@comment-26418719-20190420114528

>GER's other uses only delay the inevitable due to the fact that Joker has directly taken attacks far stronger than anything GER can dish out, meaning that Joker could basically just stand around while GER tries everything and would still not be able to hurt Joker

Except as I've stated multiple times, the one thing that screws Joker over in that matchup is the fact that '''Joker NEEDS Satanael (or a similarly top-tier Persona) to achieve those stats. Without a Persona (Which is what GER is going to force), Joker is peak human at best.''' As evidenced in P5's bad ending, where he dies by unceremoniously being shot in the head.

Normally, the fact that Joker is reliant on his Persona for stats wouldn't be an issue. But GER can force it to become an issue by negating any effects Joker's Persona will have on the battle- including the statistical buffs that Joker gets from it.