Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20171003210326/@comment-25620113-20171007031558

1) I already covered this. Having a higher IQ means nothing if you can't react to attacks. As shown during his sherlock scan, he still needs to move as he's predicting attacks and that was against street level beings. The fact is Brainstorm is not a viable option against an opponent who can move faster than light.

2) Yeah but Ben, himself has dodged time rays and all Mario needs is one good hit on Clockwork.

3) Mario wouldn't need prep time. Subdora didn't and yet she was still able to figure out that the AGP was the source of Goop's mobility.

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6) Honestly I agree with this, i don't think speed scaling is a viable option especially when its as convuluted as the case Metal presented. Having said that Mario does have FTL feats such as the black holes in galaxy.

7) What the hell? I mean why would Ben need to turn into Echo Echo then into alien X. I know he's done that before to get different aliens at the same time but Alien X can already make duplicates of himself so why would he turn into Echo Echo? And there's a huge problem with this. Doing the aforementioned Echo Echo trick splits up his personalities making the whole trick ineffective. I agree that Mario wouldn't time travel because its not really something that is in his main arsenal but Paper Mario easily beats Alien X. A better example would be to have Ben use Ascalon which gives him ultimate power and reality warping (Vilgax said he could create any universe he chose) but that still doesn't really help matters.