Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-33064970-20190418072655/@comment-26418719-20190814220823

>The fact Mario haa hurt him via physicality

My main problem with that is that more than half the time (I'd say it's closer to 75-80% of the time), he can't without a power-up.

Pretty much every 2D Mario Game, 3D Land, 3D World, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Super Mario Odyssey all prevent Mario from harming Bowser directly with his standard attacks, often requiring a power-up of some kind or an environmental gimmick in order to actually damage Bowser (To note: All 2D games are the former when Bowser's not giant, as the Fire Flower and Starman let Mario hurt him, 3D Land and 3D World don't even allow that, Super Mario 64 requires Mario to throw Bowser into Bombs, Sunshine doesn't have Mario even touch Bowser and more just destroy the battlefield he and Bowser are fighting on, Galaxy 2 has him ground pound meteors into Bowser, and Odyssey requires Mario to steal Bowser's hat and use it against him). Really, the Mario RPGs are the exception to the rule, and even then not always (The Bros. needed Dreamy Luigi to fight Giant Bowser, considering Giant Bowser One-shots the Bros. in Bowser's Inside Story). And I've already made my feelings clear on why using Mario Party in the context of Vs. Debates is stupid and should never be considered. If Mario's power and durability IS in the same ballpark as Bowser's, '''it's only just barely and still a pretty large disadvantage. '''Mario's definitely faster than Bowser, though.

>Eh. Still don't think that deserves a downgrade.

I never said it deserves a downgrade. All I'm saying is that Power Star scaling is dumb because the Power Stars are inconsistent as hell anyway if King Bob-Omb and King Whomp can show such pathetic performances even when empowered by one.