Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-37177487-20190503150238/@comment-27921095-20190516213406

Knuckles is supposed to be physically stronger than Sonic. If he can't beat Dedede based on strength, then Sonic isn't gonna be able to harm Dedede either. His only hope would be to have a speed advantage, but he gets blitzed HARD in base form which pretty much allows Dedede to solo all of Sonic's friends working together. The modern Sonic universe right now gets blitzed and curbstomped by Dedede while the only ones who can match him would be Solaris, Supers, the Egg Wizard thing or whatever it was, and... Erazor Djinn. Unfortunately, half of those require a transformation from pther base forms that would logically be killed before they can even achieve those forms. So basically, Dedede can solo almost every person in the Sonicverse (game) should they start in base forms, with only three things (two of which require prep and haven't beenbised since their destruction due to beinf Eggman's creations) being able to stop him.