Talk:Ben 10 VS Green Lantern/@comment-37750788-20191107015328/@comment-31067519-20191214184742

^^ That said, I do agree with most that was said in the linked video. Even though Hal is older and more experienced, both he and Ben have defeated cosmic entities with centuries and millennia of experience and training, and Ben is smarter than people give him credit for. I know Ben 10 as a franchise has been riddled with retcons and inconsistencies due to shifting writing or just bad writing in general, so most scenes depicting him as straight up dumb when he's really just academically lazy don't make much sense.

One thing I have to disagree on is the Omnitrix failsafe. Jyminaurus brought up Hal cutting off Ben's hand using a scissors construct in the fight even though it's been beaten to death that the fight animation has little to nothing to do with the actual research and the outcome that the research led to. Hal winning had more to do with him simply being much faster than the Omnitrix's failsafe can react, and the Big Bang from the Annihilaarg that the failsafe reacted to doesn't seem to work the same as the actual Big Bang since its speed could be measured from when it was allowed to birth a new universe, and the speed that came out to was still inferior to Hal's speed feats (Hal crossing the universe at 1.5 quintillion x light speed >> Failsafe reacting to the Big Bang at 13 billion x light speed), not to mention that Hal scales to the Zoom(s) and multiple Flashes (Barry Allen, Wally West) who can outrun time itself, so he and his constructs are still fast enough to outspeed the failsafe regardless.

I do like how he pointed out Ben is technically vulnerable to Soul Manipulation and that the Omnitrix can technically "revive" Ben if he's in a certain form (when he died as Chromastone, he was rebuilt into Diamondhead). Again, Hal has counters for that (kinda hard to be rebuilt after being vaporized by a Solar System - Universal blast that Hal can use at any point), but it is an interesting facet to consider for other versus debates involving Ben that I don't think many fans have noticed.