Talk:Nightwing VS Daredevil/@comment-25037311-20180925021830/@comment-33067344-20180925170220

Allow me to pick this argument. Part by part.

{{HideSpoilers|Text=>"First off, Bob-Omb Battlefield is depicted as a real place. In Super Mario Odyssey, Hint Toad's Map is of Bob-Omb Battlefield."

This proves nothing on its own. Hasty Generalization, my man; especially when Bob Omb Battlefield was BLATANTLY stated to be within the paintings/walls.

>"Also, creating Suns doesn't mean much if they don't have the energy to back it up. Creation feats are not completely reliable as feats of power. Especially in regards to Suns and Black Holes. Toad says Bowser is creating his own world using the Power Stars, correct? Note the lack of a plural. Why would this apply to somewhere that is considered a real space? If anything, Toad is explicitly referring to the three Bowser Levels (Bowser in the Dark World, Bowser in the Fire Sea and Bowser in the sky). Even if Bob-Omb Battlefield is a world of Bowser's creation, it's awfully small, don't you think? Why does it suddenly scale to a real sun when the rest of the course is absolutely miniscule? In fact, WHY do people take suns in the background so seriously considering the fact that it is JUST BACKGROUND?"

You haven't refutated the above blog man, your argument lacks relevance here.

Secondly, what a Texas Sharpshooter indeed; Toad's referring to paintings and walls'. If this isn't plural, then I don't know what actually is. Regardless, showings in the game prove that those worlds are separate.

And finally, its a background depicting something impressive. No matter what you think, background or not, small or not, there's still a sun there.

>"What, is Rider from Fate/Zero suddenly Star-level for having a sun be present in the sky of his Ionian Hetairoi? Answer: No, of course not (he lost to Gilgamesh who most certainly is not Star-level in Fate/Zero), and Bowser is no different. And even if we DID allow Bowser that using the Power Stars, Mario can't scale because he took the Power Stars away from Bowser, meaning Bowser couldn't have used them in their final battle. Not to mention the fact that the Power Stars are EXTREMELY inconsistent in regards to their power across Mario lore anyway. Plus, it's power source scaling. That's not a good thing."

Mario can fight beings empowered by Power Stars consistently within the same game; whatever he's fighting Bowser or not is irrelevant.

And your "anti-feats" are Plot Induced Stupidity. Shit like that happens because the plot demands such.