Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31270269-20170521164627/@comment-31816534-20170620225003

Silverboy300 wrote:

TheMetallicBlur wrote: 1. Those are only advantages Link needs to win.

2. Did you even read the quote?

3. Since when does: using a glorified fire hydrant, spin from a star, and often having to use stomps and hammers and Bros. Attacks count as hand to hand.

4. Mario beating Ultimate Emerl is extremely unlikely. Ultimate Emerl has 4000 years worth of combat knowledge and experience, the abilities of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream, Shadow, Rouge, and Chaos, and energy from the seven chaos emeralds. That's still kinda considered harming Bowser via with Mario/Luigi's own might. Yeah it was a Star Spin powered from another being but Mario's strength was also combined into that move to hurt Bowser.

But it's not hand-to hand. It's not about if Mario can harm Bowser. It's about if Mario beat Bowser in hand-to-hand. And obviously, he doesn't.