Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-27599520-20180415181923/@comment-27921095-20190901073236

Kars and his stand are actually faster than Shadow and Mewtwo. If he has durability negation via any hax, he may be able to beat them based on that. Same with Cell, actually.

Doomsday and Ultron blitz and outhax him, though.

So yeah. It's basically Ultron Vs. Doomsday and it could lean towards Doomsday but I mean Ultron does have some good hax. Doomsday only becomea resistant AFTER he gets defeated or id it doesn't outright kill him, and Ultron can be pretty ruthless, so...

But yeah. Depends. No one other than Ultron and Doomsday are coming out on top, though. First to die is Kars (if no good hax) or Mewtwo because he's blitzed by everyone, contrary to the popular belief that Shadow dies first.