Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-33064970-20190418072655/@comment-37701562-20190714111206

EmperorDedede wrote: ^

But they did even destroyed the Universe? All they did was shaking Universes with shockwaves, and shaking=/= destroying

Hit doesn't move faster than time, he just have an attack that can stop time, that's like saying that Esdeath or Jotaro are faster than time, and if you say that Goku is faster than time, he probable only have resistance to Time Stop Attacks (But imo, the attack is only that he stop the time 2 seconds iirc)

That's another thing, since Infinite Zamasu is Low Multiversal, but again, nobody scales to him and the only way they got to beat him was only With the help of Zen'o

And the Broly thing, he only shaked an entire timeline with his fight with Gogeta, and if you Call that Universal/Multiversal because they were in a collapsing dimension, the same thing happened to Asura in his fight with Chakravartin (idk how to write it lmao) and he isn't considered universal. (Plus, the reality effect at the start of the fight was possibly only teleporting by the collapse of the Attacks, they didn't actually destroyed the reality) I can't really defend the other statements since I haven't gotten that far into Dragon Ball Super but it was specifically stated by the Lord Kaioshin and the narrator that Goku and Beerus were going to destroy the universe because of their clashes. You can't really get any more certain that Goku and Beerus are universal than that apart from actually destroying the universe.