Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-27177230-20180823175406/@comment-36904777-20181018115826

Hyper Anon wrote: Bendy-Kirby3 wrote: Hyper Anon wrote:

Bendy-Kirby3 wrote: Hyper Anon wrote: Mario's universe level iirc in base form? And he might also be Multiversal(?) fully composite Mario (which I'm aware Screwattack did not use) is on that higher dimensional shit. He still gets pwned by Fate But likely defeats Solar System to Universe Level Raven. But then again the Universe stuff is very iffy (It comes from Bowser allegedly surviving the destruction of the Universe), if Mario isn't Universe Level he probably might come after Optimus Prime. He might have the hax to atleast keep up or surpass Doctor Fate and a composite Mario MIGHT actually solo DC (But depends if you think DC's "God" is actually omnipotent), not sure if that is relevant but still worth the mention. I can see a bunch of scenarios where Mario beats Raven, but otherwise Raven beats Mario 55% to 45%

Though I will say Mario being able to beat Bowser, who went through all that black hole crap, is impressive. Okay, Mario gets defeated by Raven's hax and defeats Prime with the Matrix(?) Apparently Bowser likely didn't survive the destruction of the Universe and most of the feat is ambigious. The size of the black hole is ambiguous from what I’ve heard, but Bowser did survive AFAIK, which makes Mario being able to hurt him pretty impressive. Fate has been through that kind of stuff before, so he rekts Mario, but Mario VS Raven is a MUCH closer fight.

Mario’s power ups give him the edge, but Raven has hax that can beat Mario more times than not. It’s pretty close, but I can see Raven winning about 53% of the time.