Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-33881745-20190421194116/@comment-39801929-20190830214215

Even then, Zarathos isn’t out of Hal’s tier. Once Zarathos incarnates, Hal’s gonna have a tough time, but it’s not an insta-stomp or anything like that. Zarathos is still WAAAAY slower than Hal and hasn’t displayed any resistance to stuff like transmutation, types of reality warping, etc. as far I’m aware.

And I still don’t buy Zarathos being universal without followers.