Talk:Comment Section Central/@comment-39011293-20191221160207/@comment-39801929-20191221170225

I really don't buy multiversal Arceus. There's nothing that ever actually suggests he created the multiverse, every bit of lore just says he created the universe. This is even outright contradicted when we see multiple different Arceus across canon. The one from PMD is clearly different from the one in the main games. Even just creating the Pokemon universe and parallel worlds like Ultra Space is universal+, not multiversal. He shouldn't outclass Beerus in power to any notable degree.

Even if he is more powerful, he still likely loses. Beerus is leagues faster even upscaling Arceus from Necrozma. Arceus has no way of resisting the Hakai, given that he's never displayed a resistance to existence erasure. Nothing stopping Beerus from just blitzing and Hakaing him instantly, which is a tactic he's used before.

Didn't want to start another argument but yeah.