Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-26915466-20190303090602/@comment-30944269-20190531200055

>"I think you pretty much have to accept they choose the winner in advance, and then the research done is made to justify that win. Maybe that's not bias, but it's hardly true nerd debate stuff."

This is idiotic and false. I've spoken to members of the research team. They do research and decide the outcome based on it. You know. The exact way that DB says they do.

>"Ben Singer even admits he's not a member of the VS community."

He said he doesn't associate himself with the greater vs community, presumably because a lot of it is highly toxic.

>"Well, if Ben Singer really WAS trying to help Goku win"

He was not. He was doing research to try and determine who he thought would win, not trying to help one side or the other.

>a bunch of shit about Goku vs Superman

No one cares lol

>"Unless you only care about turning off your brain and seeing good FX"

The animation is meant to be entertaining. The analysis and conclusion are meant to be accurate. It's not that hard to understand.

>"which tbh, is the sad state of most Americans these days."

lol???

>"Past the EXTREME Death Battle fanboys like you seem to be, no one takes the research that seriously, because we all know they've messed up at one time or another."

lol ok bud. FTR I disagree with tons of Death Battles, and rarely bother defending them. The only reason I'm doing so now is because in this case they're actually right.

>"They can never get the results 100% right."

They've literally admitted that they aren't perfect before, multiple times. Hell, they said so in the Q&A, which I'm guessing you didn't watch.

>"This dude isn't even a battle debater, he took on Seth, sure, but mainly his beef with Death Battle is as a Ben 10 fan, and you're throwing shade on him rather than addressing his criticism"

I....did address his criticism? Most of what he said was either incorrect or subjective, which I said earlier. Are you talking about when I said he acted egotistically in the vid? Because that was only part of what I was saying, and I wouldn't call it throwing shade.

>"To date, the ONLY time I have ever seen Ben Singer admit he was wrong was when they pinned a comment to their Captain Marvel vs. Android 18 Death Battle, and tbh, that was only after a HUGE flood of angry DBZ fans challenged him on Twitter, including Geekdom, who was very professional."

Actually, the pinned comment was a statement that the math on 18's speed was done incorrectly in the video, and the actual result would have been much higher. That wasn't something anyone called him out on, it was something he noticed himself and corrected willingly. The thing that people called him out on was the energy absorption thing, which he originally debated against, but conceded was incorrect once he saw all the evidence provided. As for admitting he was wrong, he basically said on his blog that Goku vs Superman 2 was shit, and literally released a second Mario vs Sonic episode that goes against the one he originally made. Soooo...

>"No one will tell me that pinned comment wasn't them saving face."

The topic of the pinned comment was, as I said, a mistake that no one noticed. He COULD have just let it gone unnoticed, but he felt the need to correct himself anyway, even though he didn't have to.

>more Goku vs Superman shit

skip

>"You seem totally blind to the inherent hypocrisy in the channel."

First of all, I don't appreciate being called blind, second, you're heavily projecting and assuming all sorts of shit that is factually not true. Like...no offense but the stuff you're saying is lowkey crazy.

>"Pre-Crisis CANNOT be canon because it's a specific era! The focus is on the Rebirth era right now."


 * sigh*

Convergence undid the events of the Crisis on Infinite Earths. The current canon (Rebirth) is an amalgamation of Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis, and New 52. I don't care if you think it "CANNOT be canon", it factually is.