Talk:Nightwing VS Daredevil/@comment-25037311-20180925021830/@comment-32550629-20180926191954

Since the battle is out now, I won’t spoiler tag anything.

First off, what says that they’re not real lasers? Do you have any proof? Because they look real to me, being from Sci-Fi advanced technology.

Ok, so you might be right on the black hole size. Still, it was created by the Grand-Star and is powerful enough to destroy a galaxy at its max. And I meant Lumas can become star systems, that was a mistake on my part. And Lumas and Power Stars ARE related, obviously. Rosalina even said that they’re comparable to Lumas. Becoming celestial bodies isn’t just part of they’re life-cycle, it’s also the amount of energy they can emit to becoming them. And in game, they can become celestial bodies in seconds.

So? It’s still PIS/CIS. It happens all the time in fiction. Marvel and DC have WAY more instances of PIS than Mario, and yet they’re not called out. Hell, even in DBZ/DBS, they have more cases of PIS. And Mario has more cases of being MFTL, but I’ll get to that possibly soon. And like I said those are cases of Mario being caught off guard, or distracted.

Those pocket realms are actually legitimately sized ones (they seem smaller because they’re contained in paintings.) and there ARE actually stars in them. Mario CAN scale because he himself can get powered b the power Stars. And they ARE consistent in power based on even the Luma statements and the black hole calc. And I don’t know why he needed 124 to reach the Moon? Maybe a gameplay goof? Besides, that doesn’t relate to power, morseo relating to the requirements to get to the damn Moon in the first place. And the Moons likely function different from the Stars. Also, Mario getting hurt by those common enemies is gameplay mechanics, whereas King Bob-Omb is a legitimate boss, though Mario is much stronger than him. Or maybe the energy of Power Stars vary between bosses based on how much of them they’re powered by?

I know VS Battles Wiki can be wonky at times, but that doesn’t mean they’re always wrong. Anyway, they explicitly explain why the black hole feat is legit and it was a legitimate black hole. But I won’t get into it. And the Power Stars in their appearances are just as consistent, though not as much since they appear in games less than the Chaos Emeralds.

So yeah, that’s all I have to say. Let’s just end this right now.