Talk:Mario VS Sonic (2011)/@comment-24984918-20150919193539/@comment-25430354-20151104072240

Never stated that Sonic's max was slower than light speed, and Sonic himself stated that light speed is no problem for him. Either way, Sonic's leagues above Mario's speed, not even including Chaos Control.

Intellect isn't really too much of a factor in this fight, but are you seriously acting like Sonic's NEVER had any platforming puzzles or regular he's had to solve in his own games? Occupations don't mean jack either. Good for Mario having a job where he shoves pills down someone's throat. In terms of combat experience and dealing with complicated enemies they are relatively even.

Coin rush is a completely seperate mode, the main way Mario achieves it in the games is by dying 5 times. The whole argument of Mario obtaining the tanooki suit itself is sketchy, doesn't have a consistent right answer, and is essentially used as a cop-out for Mario fans, who would get slaughtered in debates outside of Mario vs Sonic for trying to use it. If Mario could get it anytime he wants in the main games there's no challenge and it brings forth plotholes to one of the most simplistic plots of video games.

Sonic's elemental shields operate based on the projectile. The bubble shield can allow Sonic to breathe underwater and deflect the appropriate projectile, and since ice is made of water it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume it'd deflect off the shield, similar to how fireballs and lava can't affect the fire shielf.

With Mario's "Galaxy durability" that comes down to debating gameplay and cutscene material. Gameplay wise characters can tank something they're not meant to truly survive (i.e. Mortal Kombat's X-Ray attacks). Cutscene wise Bowser didn't land a single punch on Mario while in this form. And even in gameplay Mario has to use Bowser's own comets to damage him rather than his own fists.

Agility can't really be debated and really isn't important here. I can't believe we're taking breakdancing debates seriously...

Also, be a little less subtle about the username  next time, SenpaiMario...