Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-33064970-20190418072655/@comment-27921095-20190721210044

Universal Mario has more evidence for it than most of the famous Ninty protags IIRC. More than Kirby, more than Link, and maybe even more than Dante and Kratos. Multiversal base Mario definitely doesn't have much in support of it, though. Only potentially Dreamy Bowser if you even consider him multiversal. I'm just waiting for Galaxy 3 or something extreme from Mario & Luigi again for Mario to get even more cosmic feats.

Surprised VBW honestly hasn't picked up on it yet but are willing to use vague scenarios to give Kirby Quadrillions to Qunitillions c speed, and speaking of which, quintillions c Kirby is wank, and even high Quadrillions c is iffy.

Imo, if people can accept Galaxy level Mario, then Multi-Galaxy from the fact that he beat Bowser who created and survived a large supermassive black hole the size of at least a galaxy from scaling from previous worlds in Galaxy isn't much of a stretch or increase, especially since Mario casually beat Bowser and people powered by Grand Stars/Power Stars in base in both games as well as in 64 with King Bob-omb and Bowser surviving battles against Mario w/ Power Stars when all he had om him was a key. Even Yoshi, Luigi, and Wario can beat bosses empowered by Power Stars with none on their person, so it's consistent. Power Stars give a boost yes, but I don't think seperating their shown power levels from base forms is a good idea. Just note "higher with Power Stars". I mean, hell, PEACH can survive the black hole's collapse at the end of Galaxy 2, and she and Yoshi are the physically weakest Star Children.

So imo, I guess even Large Star is a downplay for base Mario characters, but I'm not so sure if that's controversial.

As for Sonic? I'm curious what makes you think Low Multiversal is wank? Is it because Solaris and Time Eater were hax, not physically capable of destroying whole universes/multiverses with their attacks? What level do you think is a good rating for Super characters, then?