Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31816534-20171229201243/@comment-27389401-20180104011541

TheMetallicBlur wrote: Danibom wrote: Round 1: Wario with 0 difficult due to killing Black Jewel who erased the universe and replaced it with its own at the beginning of the game. to back this up, at the ending, when its realm is erased, the universe doesn't return. Sure, the Spritelings imply that only Wario's castle was eliminated, but the opening and ending contradict that, as well as the fact that, after his castle was destroyed, the outside was an empty void as well. And when they say they'll recreate his castle, Wario is amazed. So, they had to of done something amazing, since he wasn't even impressed by Black Jewel's feats. It would also be consistent considering that, according to story, the Spritelings managed to defeat and imprison Black Jewel. He also killed Rudy the Clown who is stated as a threat to the music box world and the "outer one," which is the actual Marioverse. Thus, he is a threat to two entire universes.

Round 2: I don't know how strong both vehicles are.

Round 3: Wario-Man takes this while Super Shadow is capable of fighting Solaris, he needed help to beat Solaris and the super forms needed to attack Solaris weak spots. While Super Shadow is a speedster, Wario-Man is faster than Base Wario who still able to move freely in a void of nothingness. He even did this in the beginning of the game, too. Plus, Base Wario defeated Bowser in MP5 where he stated and showed he was going to ruin, or, destroy Dream Depot who is a multiverse of dreams and Wario-Man again is superior to Base Wario. Wario-Man also has strong farts that can poison Super Shadow to give much trouble to the hedgehog.

1. Having the strength of a universe and having the durability of one are two entirely different things.

2. To be fair, I put this one in for kicks. But the Dark Rider has guns to take out the Wario Bike.

3. Sure, Super Shadow needed help fighting Solaris, but that's still more impressive than anything's Wario-Man's done. Also, Super Shadow didn't just hurt Solaris' weak point, but also broke the shells on his arm. That's also super impressive. 1. It may be different but when a character destroy a universe, the character is capable of surviving the universe destruction meaning AP and Durability equalizes.

2. Then Shadow has a victory in this round.

3. While its impressive, the Solaris feat is inconsistent and debatable.