Talk:Charizard VS Greymon/@comment-25182985-20151203200123/@comment-3391158-20151203212631

Constantine is insane - this is the guy who tricked The Presence who knows everything and everyone

Baisically:

""Because John had attempted suicide in his youth his soul is and has been forever bound to hell. John made another deal with two hell lords to sell his soul to each so that all three would be in possession of the rights to his soul, meaning by their own rules they would have to fight for him which would mean their own destruction. The Presence has set a guiding rule for himself of self determination for all his creations. he always allows every being in the universe to determine their own path and whether they will end up with him or not. Having used the deal with two hell lords to keep them all in his control John then quite simply played the presences' own motivations to make him do what he wanted and cleanse his soul of all so that he was free to choose his path anew. He did this by simply explaining that the reason he had done the deal was that he knew he would eventually rule hell. he was more crafty than all the others who had and it might take him a few hundred years but he would. The Presence knew this was true and also knew (because he is omniscient) that if Constantine achieved this he would be a far greater threat to the innocent souls of his creations than any other who had ever ruled hell."

That's why you don't fuck with John Constantine.