Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-26921356-20171209201603/@comment-27109830-20171209234754

As powerful as Ike is, i'd say Cloud has him beat in almost every field; Cloud is stronger, faster, more versatile and way more haxxed.

Ike's best AP feat; defeating Ashera, who possesses roughly one half of the Goddess Ashunera's power (who could flood the entire world aside of Tellius), pales in comparison to Cloud defeating Sephiroth, who's base form is far stronger than Zack Fair; a character that can fight Bahamut Fury (who has moon-busting power), and even contended with the likes of Safer Sephiroth, who can create entire supernova's with ease.

Ike's best speed feat; being capable of dodging lightning based spells such as Bolting, again, gets blown out of the water by Cloud keeping pace with, and even overwhelming, Sephiroth, who's far faster than Bahamut Fury; roughly putting him at Faster Than Light combat speed and reactions

Durability, again, is not even a contest, as Ike's best durability feat, is surviving hits from Ashera, while Cloud can survive Sephiroth's attacks, and tank star-busting moves such as Supernova.

Versatility may go to Ike, depending on what you give Cloud, but should you give everything for both, Cloud still wins, because he can manipulate numerous elements, use Mako energy to enhance his physical prowess, manipulate time in order to slow down Ike even further, instantly kill Ike, turn Ike into a toad, as well as create barriers; while Ike has little that he can do against Cloud because of Cloud's numerous resistances. And while Aether ignores enemies' defences, Cloud's durability and regeneration would make it difficult for Ike to even harm him.

As for experience, that likely goes to Ike due to being born and raised on the field of battle, but that means little when Cloud is just that much stronger, faster, durable, versatile, and haxxed.