Talk:Goku VS Superman 2/@comment-26871575-20150830190349/@comment-25430354-20150914025920

As I appreciate the detail, there's a number of holes in this that have been debated and debunked by Superman supporters, such as the IMP details (such as, why put "Superman would harm the earth if he did this" against him and not Goku?, aside from the fact that it's not considered in Death Battle)

Also, despite clearly saying that Superman's never encountered chi based opponents, you still use it against him and treat it like magic despite you clearly stating it's a theory by Lex Luthor. You know the amount of holes that came with using this against Superman and yet you still chose to use it against him.

We know Superman is not completely limitless, but that doesn't mean Goku is limitless as well. We know that Goku gets stronger after every fight, but he still needs to get the crap beating out of him to do so and is CERTAINLY killable since he's died 2 times, lost to Beerus, needed his friends help in pretty much every single major fight of the series except Frieza, and was in critical condition against Golden Frieza and his cheating henchman. We've seen in different canon futures that Superman will also continue getting stronger as time goes on as well (Such as Superman Prime, for example). Sorry but that was kind of hypocritical for you to put the no limits rule on Goku without acknowledging his losses and deaths.

Superman's a much more skilled combatant than you're putting him out to be. He hasn't just received training in torquasm ra and vo, and it's not like comparing an academic scholar to Bruce Lee. Even if Superman's inconsistent and Goku's a skiled fighter, that's a weak comparison and ignorant of combat feats Superman has.

Let's go over this quote of yours:

"Power scaling shall be used in an even stricter sense for Superman, since countless writers have written the character over the years and generally have differing opinions regarding his abilities. This of course leads to many inconsistencies and massive amounts of confusion. Hence I shall only be using feats for Superman that lead to the most consistent version of the character (no lifting infinity as a result)"

Sorry, but no matter how much people complain about how Superman has multiple writers and Goku has one, that's just how Superman is. This sounds more like cherry picking than being fair. Trying to make a "consistent" Superman is impossible and is just gonna piss people off, and I'm not counting about the infinity feat.

There are also a number of times when you're giving Goku more of the benefit of the doubt than Superman in regards to pressure points and how he'd handle Superman going to the sun should he resort to that scenario. Calculations I'd rather not talk about since that all comes down to interpretation and no one has a right one or similar one unless they copy and paste it from someone else.