Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-31270269-20170521164627/@comment-26488478-20170608183909

TheMetallicBlur wrote: Clockworx wrote: CanCan967 wrote: Pikachu has raw power advantage? Total bullshit!

Adding to what MetallicBlur has said,

Ganon's opponent is a strategic warrior who wields an almighty holy sword specifically stated to be the only weapon that can permanently kill Ganon aside from future holy weapons like Silver Arrows. Link comes in always fully prepared and guess what, Ganon actually won in few occasions.

Bowser's opponent, on the other hand, is a fat plumber with a fetish for mushrooms and turtles. Mario barely does anything; he just activates random switches in the castle and Bowser automatically falls into one of his own traps EVERYTIME.

It's no fallacy! Spawn won due to the very same reason Ganon won, so why claim that Ganon's immortality is a fallacy while totally accepting the reason behind Spawn's victory? Bro, are you serious? You used the first Mario game as an example? That just shows how little research you do. And Mario is a far more powerful opponent than Link. Mario has taken on Bowser in fisticuffs MANY, MANY, MANY times. And that was an NLF because Spawn won for different reasons. Besides, his NLF would be more believable anyways. You do realize that Bowser does that in modern games too, right? And power isn't everything, but I'm not going into that. But when has mario taken on bowser in fisticuffs? Spawn was only able to win because of his immortality in that fight. If he didn't have immortality, the Blade of Olympus would've killed him.

Power sometimes is everything, especially if your opponent IMMENSELY outclasses you. Bowser yes he has, but Mario has beaten Bowser with his fists in:

Super Mario 64/DS

Super Mario Galaxy

Mario and Luigi series

Paper Mario series

Super Mario Sunshine (I think?)

I think that's it.

Also Spawn won not because of immortality, but because he outclasses Kratos in every way possible aside from arsenal, which Spawn can counter with his hax and abilities.