Talk:Goku VS Superman Rematch/@comment-5808856-20150717023526/@comment-5808856-20150717023806

This is from an article explaining why Kirby stomps Buu

Odd : Combat speed ? A combat speed argument ? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Fastsword : *Sigh* Combat speed is a fallacy, and a HUGE one at that.

Odd : There's a very smart article that clearly describes the combat speed fallacy as the following :

'''"Combat Speed Fallacy is a dishonest and flawed argument used by various posters (usually DBZtards such as the Phenom Brigade and MvC wankers). The essence of the argument relies on trying to categorize every speed feat of the other side as "travel speed", "movement speed" or some other kind "non-combat speed". They will then proceed to claim all of those speed feats don't count and their favored character would speedblitz the opposition. This is fallacious for many reasons.

First of all, said wankers never give a consistent definition of "combat speed". Realistically, to fight at a certain speed requires no more than the following:

- The ability to move at that speed - The ability to perceive an opponent moving at that speed - The ability to react at that speed

So logically, demonstrating "travel speed" feats in combination with sensory and reaction/thought speed feats should be sufficient to establish a character's "combat speed". However, the trolls who use this argument almost never accept this, instead trying to define "combat speed" as something that can only be measured in combat, which is retarded."'''

Fastsword : So as you see, there isn't really different categories of speed AT ALL. Travel speed alone is all we need to see who is the fastest character, since you logically won't able to control your trajectory and move at a certain speed if your reaction speed is inferior to that.