Talk:Goku VS Superman 2/@comment-33842021-20171202035003

YOu know just for the heck of it I'll argue. Now I know I'll get some hate but here we go.

DEath Battle is argued to have nerfed Goku but Superman fans will say "They nerfed SUperman more" No they just took bits and pieces of info from almost every single Superman, but for my debate I will use the new 52 Superman.

I'll start of with Goku

Goku in his SSJ3 form punched at Bills on King Kai's planet and we never get to see impact but by judging GOku and Bills' positions on the planet and where Goku struck he didn't even touch King Kai's Planet. So there had to be tremendous force behind that blow, but we can safely assume Goku in SSJ3 is at least Planet Level.

Now there is no exact number but SSG can be measured about 100 times stronger then SSJ3. That at least puts Goku on Solar System level. Then SSGSS is about two times stronger than that. Which is extremely powerful. Then he can take it even further by going Kaioken while in SSGSS then yada yade hecan go Kaikon x10 and even Kaioken x20 while in SSGSS. Now since it hasn't been fully explained Ultra Instinct will be out of this. So I can easily put GOku as A Multi-Solar System Buster.

Now Superman 52 I won't dwelve into to much, but one of his greatest feats was getting from Pluto to Earth in the time it took  the outlanders to use a teleporter which is extremely fast but Goku was moving around in Hit's TIme Skip So Goku is already faster.

I dunno much about SUperman honestly but from what I know abotu GOku and the new 52 Superman... well New 52 doesn't stand much chance.