Talk:Mario VS Sonic/@comment-29933641-20170903214127/@comment-26374068-20171207194140

Paper Jam proved nothing. They're still both the same guy. This blog holds many points, but not all of them. The thing is... Mario has no canon. Miyamoto confirmed in an interview with Game Informer that Mario is like a "troupe of actors" that can adopt virtually any role whatsover.

"If you're familiar with things like Popeye and some of the old comic characters, you would oftentimes see this cast of characters that takes on different roles depending on the comic or cartoon," Miyamoto said. "They might be businessman in one [cartoon] or a pirate in another. Depending on the story that was being told, they would change roles. So, to a certain degree, I look at our characters in a similar way and feel that they can take on different roles in different games."

This is taken further by how literally all of the games reference each other, making them interconnected. Luigi's Diary in PM64, for example, makes a direct reference to the Mario Party, Mario Tennis and Mario Golf games, saying, and I quote, "I remember the carefree days when we played Golf and Tennis and had Parties." This shows that Paper Mario and Paper Luigi are literally the same character as normal Mario and Luigi.

Goomboss, originally from Paper Mario 64, says after he's defeated by Mario that he'll return and get revenge. Super Mario 64 DS rolls by, and he does just that, saying, "That Mario always stomps us... but now, the tables have turned!" This is to directly reference his last run-in with Mario in Paper Mario 64.

Furthermore, the Toadette trophy in SSBB describes Toadette in Mario Kart: Double Dash as the same character that appeared in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door.

Speaking of TTYD, it solidifies that Mario and Luigi as well as all the others are the same as their Paper counterparts with its case which reads, I quote, "Get ready for a two-dimensional role-playing game for the ages as Mario returns to paper form to discover a mystery that sleeps behind an ancient, legendary portal called the Thousand-Year Door."

I could go on. Star Hill appears in Super Mario RPG, Partners in Time and Paper Mario 64, the Star Spirits appear in Paper Mario 64 and Mario Party 5, and even the best thing of all: Paper Jam never stated outright they were different people. Meanwhile, the series says Bowser and Dry Bowser are different when that's been proven wrong numerous times, and Paper Mario's trophies in Melee even says outright that Mario being paper is a design choice. Literally everything says Mario and Paper Mario are the same guy--this small thing that didn't even say much besides "oh, they can stand next to each other at the same time" should be treated as inconsistency, which is what Mario is. Also, to debunk that last part, too... If Paper Mario's another dude because he can stand next to Mario, then I guess Baby Mario and Doctor Mario are different Marios too, right? Even though they're canonically called out as the same guys and unanimously believed to be the same guy.

Paper Jam was for money, and that was it. Sorry if I sound rude, but Paper Mario and Mario are indeed the same guy.

That's funny, lol. Good one. :)

But I was talking of this guy.