User blog:SunWukong1986/Son Goku's statistics from Goku vs Superman

I have been thinking things through before from Goku's stats in the first match (still...), and after watching the battle and listening to the aftermath like 4 years ago at minimum (plus seeing through the Dragon Ball franchise and rewatching the whole playlist of Death Battle), there "might" be some flaws about the feats for Goku. Emphasis on might. Like saying Goku trains under "586" times Earth's gravity when Goku struggles to lift 40 tons on "Let the Training Begin!" from the Dragon Ball Chapter 427 and the 13th episode from Dragon Ball Z's Great Saiyaman Saga (not sure for the planet with "stronger" gravity, but he is training in Other World since he's deceased)... Just hear me out, and "feast your eyes" on this on my clarification (and perhaps debunk it).


 * I did the math for 80,000 pounds from 40 tons, added in Goku's weight, divided the same number by 137, and it equals to 584.941606... or approximately 585x Earth's Gravity rounded up! Not 586. (sarcasm) Way to go, Wiz and Boomstick. Whoop-dee-doo. But... I realized something few hours ago: was Akira Toiyama using US measurements or the Imperial metric system in Japan? And here in America using a short ton was 2,000 lbs, and the metric system outside of this country equals to 2,240 lbs for 1 long, metric ton. So would that actually be different for the numbers? Let's see. 40 metric tons equals to 89,600 lbs, plus and divide the exact same numbers from Goku's weight would make it about... 655.014599... That's 655x Earth's Gravity using the metric system. Or how about in kilograms instead of pounds since in the series, like Snake Way for example, was measured in 1 million kilometers (or 621,371.192 miles long) and in English dubs used miles instead for us Western viewers, and Goku weighs about 62 kilograms (which is pretty small based on his body frame; he could be in a 100 kg range when he's matured). So 40 metric tons equals to 40,642 kg, plus and divide with Goku's weight with 62, equals to 656.516129... Slightly more on kilograms than setting with pounds than I thought. 656x Earth's Gravity. So he's probably lifting up 40 metric tons while levitating in the air, maybe. That's basically from my solution for Goku's lifting strength. Though it was considered inconsistent since he was able to judo throw Great Namek Piccolo since the 23rd World Tournament, shove the massive granite boulder when he was training under Master Roshi, lifted a one ton Renault 5 Turbo since the start of Dragon Ball, and so on. But as I learned from the Dragon Ball Z episode 3 "Unlikely Alliance":

Raditz: I’m still ten times stronger than you are!

Goku: That may be true, but strength isn’t the only thing that matters.

''They already spoke about the lifting strength, but what about striking strength? They said Superman can deliver the force of a white dwarf with the Infinite Mass Punch from Post-Crisis, buy why didn't they check for Goku's punching force as well?''


 * Now for the speed feat for Goku based on Snake Way. They did the measurement from how Ben Singer (or Wizard) says in that category after talking about how long it took Goku to fly over a million killometer Snake Way:


 * "Except it’s filled with curves and Goku flew straight over it, so how far did he actually travel? By comparing Goku’s height to a single spike, we can measure each curve. We can then remove those curves from the overall length. So it turns out that Goku actually flew 307,000 kilometers, nearly 11,000 km/h."
 * So you're saying that he travels at under 9 times the speed of sound after training with King Kai? Even though Snake Way is actually filled with curves like he mentioned (as it provided the length and the time it took Goku to get from King Kai's planet to the check out station where he can meet up with Kami), but it basically does the path in a serpentine kind of way, and the spikes doesn't measure in exact same length based on the design of the animation or panel (as the tip of the tail has gotten smaller for the spikes). When Goku was fighting against Vegeta, his speed goes at sub-relativistic level (5%-10% SoL), relativistic (10%-50% SoL) with the Kaioken in combat speed, reaction and at short burst speeds at 4x maximum. Not exactly how to measure those in exact numbers on terms of travel and combat speed difference, but... there you have it. Goku moves at sub-relativistic speeds in base form.


 * As for the durability, he was able to match up with Vegeta's Galick Gun with his Kamehameha using the Kaioken x3 in a beam struggle at the age of 24 (not 25, Wiz... unless you weren't mentioning about his physical age as he didn't age much in Other World for a year after his first death), then overpowering it with the 4x Kaioken. Vegeta stated that he'll blow up the Earth into space dust, so he's basically a planet buster in the Saiyan Saga at full strength. So, "why was I talking about the Saiyan Saga for Goku's durability", you may ask? That's basically from the calculations Dr. Gero last made in serveilance after that climactic event from the Galick Gun-Kamehameha beam struggle. The result of years of research conducted by Dr. Gero, in which miniature spy robots were used to analyze Goku's fighting techniques and developments in strength, all in an attempt to exact revenge on Goku for destroying the Red Ribbon Army. However, Gero did not analyze Goku during his time on the planet Namek, and thus the androids are unaware of his ability to transform into a Super Saiyan, which Goku gladly demonstrates in front of him. Other words, they didn't collect any data after the fight between Goku and Vegeta, which Death Battle happens to use the filler scene from the bomb Gero made in Android 16 as a last resort. Goku is already stronger when he got to Namek when training in 6 days and surpassed his limitations after training at 100 Gs, which he easily defeated Recoome (which gave trouble to Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan, and he took him down with a single elbow strike to the abdomin for an opening) and Burter (as well as outpacing him) easily. After recovering from the injuries from the body swap with Ginyu and back to his old body, he was able to match Frieza's 4th form when presumably using 2% of his maximum, and he was having trouble keeping up with Frieza using half of his full power (saying he's barely using half of it) and blah-blah-blah... collected the energy for the Genki Dama from the surrounding planets, Frieza survives and kills Krillin, Goku becomes Super Saiyan, and he's a lot stronger than Frieza. And I might need to use the power scaling (even though they don't use power scaling on Death Battle), Frieza was able to destroy Planet Vegeta in base form when using the "Supernova" attack, someone did the math if planet Vegeta is the same size as Earth, they putted Frieza in his first form at small star level due to destroying the planet that has 10 Gs that might be 10 times denser perhaps. So in his final form puts him at large star level. That makes Goku at large star level at base, higher as a Super Saiyan from the 50x power increase. After his fight with Frieza and nursed to health on planet Yardrat along with the new technique learned, as well as getting a hang with the super form, he was able to block Super Saiyan Trunks' sword that cuts Frieza through like butter with only his index. And you get what I'm going through now, right? And these feats are equal to his ki output base on Newton's Law of Motion from his durability they mentioned, just not sure where to set the numbers exactly. All I'm saying is that Dr. Gero made a miscalculation (he said so just as after Android 19 was defeated by Super Saiyan Vegeta), which ScrewAttack really screwed up the feats for Goku.

When he was in the Buu Saga, he's above solar system level in both durability and attack potency since he is stronger than Gohan at the time when he fought against Cell and he is far superior than Fat Buu when not being serious. He can move at least above faster than light in combat speed, reactions and short bursts speed. His range can reach from meters to light-years; far higher with Shunkan Ido. And you get the whole point. They basically lowballed Goku and made him weaker than how he actually is in the Dragon Ball series. So much for the research they made. And by the way, this was before Battle of Gods and I focused mostly on the main franchise (so i didn't include GT nor the films). So there you have it. Remember: be civilized in the comments below.