Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-33067344-20171112204736/@comment-27389401-20171113201154

Team Mario with ease if the super forms are not used and that's because they fought Wart, who conquered Muu once and Subcon twice. The latter is an entire universe, as it is a dream world. After his defeat in BS Super Mario Bros., Subcon, an entire universe, ceases to exist. Wart also put a curse over Subcon and its inhabitants, apparently altering the universe in some way. (I know SMB2 is just a dream but the game BS Super Mario USA confirmed SMB2 to be real) They also fought Bowser in MP5 where he stated and showed he was going to ruin, or, destroy Dream Depot.

Team Sonic may be fast but they're not too fast for Team Mario because Team Mario completely outspeeds Bowser in 3 Mario Parties where he had to deal with black holes, those being 5, 8 and 9.He also escaped a black hole himself in Mario Party 6.They also fought Bowser and Bowser Jr., who kept up with the Mini-Stars.The Mini-Stars were not only able to fly out of a black hole in less than a second and effectively cross the size of a solar system,which is over 30,000x faster than light, but began returning to their placement across the universe, which is easily MFTL+

Even if super forms are used, Team Mario still should win because the invincibility power-ups counters the super forms, the Mario Bros. can turn Team Sonic in super forms into coins if they use Gold Flower, the Stopwatch paralyzes Team Sonic in a few seconds to Mario Bros. erases them from existence using the broom from Super Mario World which can erase castles from existence. Mario, Luigi and Peach can turn Team Sonic in super forms into frogs if they use the Magic Wand from MP2.