Talk:Goku VS Superman 2/@comment-26871575-20150830190349/@comment-26871575-20150905100409

To Blade 0886

1 - I don't think that Cell should be classed as a solar system buster for the reason that Goku at SSJ3 is not a solar system buster. Let me explain, Frieza at around 1% full power destroyed Planet Vegeta with one finger, so at full power he should be considered to be Large planet level, but even if we give Frieza a massive boost and assume that at full power he's small star level and assuming that Goku had access to that power in base form it still comes out less than solar-system level in terms of power. So unless one wants to claim that Cell is stronger than SSJ3 Goku (which he isn't) it's fairly safe to say that Cell is not a solar system buster

2 - Actually if you go back and look at the analysis I ranked Supeman's durability as solar-system level+ to multi-solar system level. The amount of energy required to completely destroy every bit of matter in the solar system in a single blast would require an energy of the order ~10^{47}J; the energy released in a supernova is ~10^{44}J, so it takes 1,000 supernovas to completely dsetroy the solar system in a blast. This is however disgarding the presence of dark matter and energy which increases the amount of energy required by 10 hence the actual energy required to destroy the solar system is 10,000 supernovas, hence the solar-system+ to multi-solar system rating

3 - At the end of Battle of Gods, Goku and Beerus had a conversation in Earth's upper atmosphere, while not quite the same as the vacuum of space the air is so thin that it can be thought of as a vacuum. Therefore it would be impossible for any oxygen-dependent lifeform to survive in the upper atmospshere for that amount of time, hence Goku as SSJG can survive in the vacuum of space

4 - The reason why I consider BoG/FnF and Dragon Ball Super canon is because they both had direct input from Toriyama himself, hence why GT and most of the films (except for BoG and FnF) are widely considered non-canon by most, myself included