Talk:Roshi VS Jiraiya/@comment-25037311-20181108114602/@comment-25037311-20181108203701

"The moon feat is most likely an outlier since other DB characters didn't reach that level until the Saiyan Saga. And if he was moon level, why didn't he fight Raditz by himself?" Feats are not a very good way to gauge a DBZ character's strength. Android 17 and 18 in DBZ never destroyed a planet. But we still know that they're stronger than Frieza and Cooler.

Also, Piccolo destroyed the moon too. But he couldn't beat Raditz either.