Board Thread:VS Debates/@comment-33064970-20180829150319/@comment-29686889-20181121183308

Updated list.

14) Daredevil (Phisically clearly stronger, being Low Building level, and better at CQC than Frank by himself, but doesn't quite stand a chance against his Exo Suit. His speed isn't superhuman, so Frank could hit him with a considerable portion of his weapons)

13) Frank West (Not as strong as Matt, but his insane durability and wrestling experience allow him to survive long enough against Daredevil, to use some of his One Shot combo weapons of his Exo Suit, which can create massive damage, and resists RPG rockets, making it at least Low Building, and again, he doesn't need workbenches to build weapons anymore, and IIRC his Exo Suit is on a suitcase he can carry anywhere he wants, although is a bit heavy. However, he can't win against the ones with higher places, except for maybe, 12)

12) Batman (Has faced strong enough opponents to be able to overcome Frank. An insane inteligence, a lot of useful gadgets capable of inmobilizing both Matt and Frank, and a clearly superhuman durability. However, he would have big trouble with Frank's Exo Suit, although as he defeated Bane with tactics, I think he can do the same with Frank. He can't speedblitz anyone below him, just as Frank)

11) Afro Samurai (His AP isn't that much of an insane thing, being barely able to block an RPG, think Frank can do with some trouble, and being able to cut through metals and such. With only this, it could be argued that Batman would beat him rather easily with gadgets. Howeve, his near-relativistic speed is just too much for Bats and anyone below him, being able to block laser beams from a distance.)

10) Crash Bandicoot (An AP that outclasses Afro by a longshot, plus his durability that's pretty much crazy, surviving landings from space, making him Town level at least, and taking multiple explosions of TNT at once. His speed IS lower than Afro's though. However, they are both within the Massively Hypersonic range, so I don't think it's that big of a problem. Plus, Aku Aku can help him even if Afro is about to land a killing blow.)

9) Jin Kazama (His Base form is around Crash's AP, however, his speed is just High Hypersonic with reactions. BUT, his lasers from his Devil form, which is already above Crash in terms of AP, being superior to Base Jin, are...lasers,....so, he has a Relativistic attack speed with lasers, speed blitzing both Afro and Crash)

8) Jotaro Kujo (His AP and durability wouldn't even beat Crash, but his Massively FTL speeds are too tough for anyone below him to handle. Not even Afro, being the fastest within the 14-9 range, can even hope to react to Star Platinum's attacks. Not even gonna talk about The World.)

7) Carnage (Either Jotaro speedblitzing him or not, he can't kill Carnage with his insanely OP healing factor. While Jotaro's attacking him, a part of the Symbiote could infect Jotaro while he doesn't notice. To defeat Cletus, you need at least City level strenght or power, AT LEAST Relativistic speeds, and a way to completely obliterate someone that can reform from a puddle. Maybe Jin could, with a hell out of luck and Laser spamming, but Carnage can avoid those attacks by being able tagging FTL characters. Jotaro certainly can't kill him either. Maybe Frank could freeze him, but again, Frank gets horribly speedblitzed and overall statstomped against Cletus.)

6) RX-78-2 Gundam (His Beam Rifle shots can obliterate Carnage, and him being Mountain level helps him. The speed can be a problem, but from a distance, due to his flying abilities, he can One Shot Carnage if the shot is well done. His laser swords can also kill Carnage if distance doesn't help)

5) Pit (He's Country level and FTL, plus his most powerful weapons can obliterate everyone here. Enough to best anyone here. Plus he can fly, so Gundam doesn't have much advantage. No much to talk about.)

4) Twilight Sparkle (Her tier is debatable. Sure she is Relativistic and all that, but her Star level is kinda hard to confirm. However, her haxes are insane. Haxes + FTL is a really dangerous combination. For example, she can just turn Pit into a plant. Just like that. Mainly because Relativistic isn't that much below Light Speed, so Pit couldn't blitz her, let alone defeat her. Even without Hax, Pit is horribly stomped stat-wise, being Country vs Star.)

3) Sigma (Being Multi Star level, and being easily FTL, in a higher range than Pit, Twilight can't beat him. His speed is just too much for her, unlike Pit which is barely Light Speed, what Twilight could dodge through scaling. Sigma is a powerhouse being able to defeat X, making him above most people here, except for, you know...)

2) Sonic the Hedgehog (Believe it or not, he has chances of beating the first place. However, that would be with Prep time IMO, but that's another topic, His base form is easily Star level, or even Multi Star level, due to defeating Emerl. His Super form's AP is kinda tricky, but as he cant take hits from Solaris, I think he's likely around Multi Universal level. And Hyper Sonic is far more powerful, as the Master emerald is far more powerful than the Chaos emerald, which could lead him to Multiversal level, but that's unsafe to assume and very defeatable, so I'll leave him, at Multi Universal. His speed is insane. He's already FTL in Base, and his Haxes like Ring Time make him even more dangerous. In Super and Hyper form, he could well have Infinite speed, as he can keep up with time warpers like Time Eaterm but again, that's debetable, so the least I cant give him is 1000 FTL, as the non canon comic says, which is pretty much everything we have. And his Ring limit is non-canon. Just a game mechanic, as he has been seen keeping the form for multiple days. Plus, Knuckles knocking Super Sonic was when Sonic was pretty new to his form, plus it was the Classic era anyway.)

1) Doctor Strange (Is easily Multi Universal level, being able to defeat Multiversal beings at the height of his power. His Haxes are too much for everyone here, even Twilight and Sonic. Shuma Gorath is way beyond what Hyper Sonic can handle, being a Multiversal threat. Plus, Doctor Strange is Fucking-tillion times FTL, and with his insane experience, he takes the first place.)

Ya know, Marvel having both the lowest and highest ranks of the list is kinda ironic.