Talk:Wario VS King Dedede/@comment-27921095-20190428225445/@comment-27921095-20190429010906

^ Ugh. I'm not saying they aren't stellar, just that there's also evidence against it. Those guys aren't the sevants of VS Debating. I pointed out the flawed logic. If he used the PS to create those realms and Mario uses them at the end, then Base Bowser clear still scales no matter how you look at it. There's no proof they both had Power Stars during the fight either.

And no, they're almost never used blatantly and offensively nor are stated to have been used to power Mario himself up. Galaxy had a vague "power of the stars" in a manual, but that was attributed to the Luma more than a reference to the Power Stars thenselves, and it could've easily been talking about the Star Spin he gets.

Yes, the bases are Large Star, but there's evidence suggesting they're more than that in base, which is what they had them at before this "W/ Power Stars" rating came from, and several feats weren't even with a Power Star that are in the cosmic range. It's a stupid difference given Mario and Bowser have proven to have feats comparable to Power Stars without utilising them. At best, they serve as an unquantifiable potential boost to already SS to MSS characters, with Grand Stars being Galaxy level at the least.