User blog comment:Savage Samurai/'Kirby's true power' debunk/@comment-1729023-20160525022746

God fucking dammit, I was about to leave this site forever and now I'm back in it due to this

" Now he actually has a point here. Another dimension is not necessarily universal so I guess that's one point to Myth Kirby. WAIT! Hold on. I've just noticed something. "Also saying that those cute little galaxies at the bottom make it multi galaxy is retarded. Those are cute aesthetics." OH FUCK OFF! I almost agreed with you and then you make a stupid comment like that. To put it into context imagine if you were an avid researcher and you saw Goku and Beerus fighting in the exact same kind of dimension and their power is destroying the dimension as well as the various solar systems and galaxies in the background. You finally calculate the amount of energy the two of them are exerting and then some dickhead comes along and says "Lol no. Those stars aren't real. Those are just cute aesthetics." Being a researcher means noticing little details so even IF the creator put them as cute aesthetics, they did that to set the scene of the fight and make it a bit more realistic therefore they still count.Honestly the creator wouldn't put them there for no reason."

Prove the galaxies are bigger than even Kirby's foot. You really can't. Using "lol why would the creator put them there then" is obvious. The battle takes place in space. Hell, they don't exactly look like galaxies.

https://i.gyazo.com/f646d819a20c7f22802f3cdb676bd4f3.png

The more I look at it, actually, they just look like random swirls. So yeah there is literally no proof of those being galaxies at all 

" And nothing implies he doesn't. Kirby has a clear indication of where he's going so why would he turn around? Although this point kind of confuses me. You say Kirby is MSS via creating a shrine that apparently spans multiple solar systems yet you don't debunk this. Instead you debunk Kirby travelling to the shrine which literally contributes nothing to this argument."

Kirby didn't fly there instantly. In the cutscene it even says "Kirby sets sail for the stars!" implying'll it'll take a while to get there. There is no set timeframe. Also, the argument of "Nothing implies he doesn't" is not helping at all. You could apply that for so much shit in fiction, its not even funny

" Except for the fact that after defeating Master Hand he obtains Smash Kirby therefore proving a canonical connection between the Smash-verse and the Kirby-verse. There is literally nothing that connects the God of War-verse to the Shovel Knight-verse as it could just be like the Street Fighter DLC for Asura's Wrath. They are both still seperate verses yet by some unknown means they can temporarily connect with each other. However Master Hand creating the Smash-verse is just speculation and it is never outright stated or implied that he created the Smash-verse therefore it's questionable how powerful he really is. Think about it. The guy got brainwashed and manipulated by Dark Mind and while one can make the argument Dark Mind is universal, he also got brainwashed and puppetered by Tabuu who got caught off guard by Sonic although Sonic has given the same treatment to various time manipulators... I'm getting off-topic. Next point!"

>Using a cute little easter egg as proof

lol

Well, Kirby also has Mr. Saturn in Great Cave Offensive, guess Mother is connected with Kirby now. Smash and Kirby are entirely seperate canons

" Oh fuck off. The Mirror World is stated in-game to be a direct parallel to Kirby's verse. Therefore it is it's own universe. No Kirby is not universal for beating Dark Mind as Dark Mind could just be replicating and reversing Kirby's verse and therefore not exactlty creating it himself."

Amazing Mirror is my favorite Kirby game, I've researched a shitton of it and nothing in it implies the Mirror World is universe sized. Planet sized? Probably. But why? Because its more or less a replica of Kirby's planet; not his entire fucking universe.

" Basic research will tell you it indeed is a better feat than the Megaton punch. Light travels to Earth in about 8 minutes or 480 seconds. Because of Popstar's similarites to Earth as well as Adenine being able to move freely on it and breathe the air as she would on Earth allows us to safely assume that Popstar is in a similar position relative to it's star as Earth is to ours. Therefore we can use the same light calculations. Kirby throws Popon to it's star AND back in roughly 20 seconds. Kirby has thrown Popon twice the distance as light therefore we now need to make the light calc 960 seconds. 960/20 = 48. Kirby threw Popon 48 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT! As you need infinite energy just TO GO LIGHT SPEED. We now have a solid feat that proves Kirby is either limitless (which is bullshit) or a better conclusion, that Kirby is exempt from the laws of physics. Either way we now need to revise the laws of physics just to calculate Kirby's strength."

Hahahahahaha... well actually- NO WAIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dude, you do realize FTL KE isn't a thing, right?

http://www.narutoforums.com/threads/faster-than-light-kinetic-energy-feats.1045039/

Even if it were, I've seen bad KE calcs that got guys going billions of times the speed of light to only like island level.

" Ok. But you've only debunked Nova's durability (debunked is a strong word. Let's settled for denying one aspect of durability)? Are you forgetting that Nova is essentially the Shenron of the Kirby-verse (has unlimited magical power but only uses it grant wishes like a genie). Now this doesn't make Kirby limitless and I'll leave calculating the math of this feat to you guys but this obviously isn't an acceptable argument even if you are intentionally downplaying Kirby (He's not btw)."

You didn't even debunk my downgrade. Either way, the sun and moon are shown to be smaller than other planets in Kirby in this cutscene and on the map:  https://youtu.be/HXj7k238sXY?t=44m4s

" True but there actually is a better black hole feat in the aforementioned Fastsword article which shows Kirby escaping the gravitational force of a black hole. The guy who creates black holes,Schwarz (an eel.), seems to have total control of the black hole and can collapse and open black holes whenever he needs to. One could make the argument that he's inhaling but he's in space which is a vacumm so there goes that option. The only way this feat makes sense is if Schwarz is creating a gravitational force somehow and Daroach's description,  It's some sort of creature that makes black holes that will suck you in...,  of him plus this little detail just confirms that. Granted it's just him escaping the black hole but still."

Really small black holes that blatantly don't have the suction of a regular one. Inb4 "its consistent in Kirbyverse!" even though Kirbyverse is consistent with its black holes being weak af

Superman still solos