Talk:Luigi VS Tails/@comment-24.113.159.197-20150323024954/@comment-25430354-20150903023712

First off, acting like a smart alec by ending an argument with "sooooooooooo.....", big pet peeve of mine. Just don't.

Secondly, I was not calling you biased. The whole "Oh Tails is my favorite character ever, I'm so sorry that I have to say Luigi wins," whether you mean it or not, is not necessary to put in at all, but is usually used as a desperate attempt to convince the opposer that they are not biased towards one character or the other, even when that opposer hasn't even accused the person of bias to begin with. Even if you didn't mean it that way, the way it was in there felt like intended guilt tripping.

The link I gave clearly states

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 * Characters from the Paper Mario universe – including Paper Mario, Princess Peach, Bowser and Toad – jump out of a book and into the world of Mario & Luigi, resulting in hilarious and dangerous hijinks, trademarks of the Mario & Luigi franchise.

Proving that the two universes are seperate. Mario doesn't have an official timeline because Nintendo really doesn't care about the overall story of those games aside from the RPGs, references were made because Nintendo didn't know about how big it would be and if it would be canon, but for the people who do care those events can take place in the Paper Mario world. References in those could take place in the Paper Mario universe, which as I've also stated above operates on a different set of physiscs.

This is what I was talking about with cherry picking. Mario characters in gameplay try to swim away from the black hole (even though what overall stops it is only sucking one of the players as it has wonked out physics compared to ACTUAL black holes, also they can't outswim it as they can slow their descent), Mario fails to do so in Galaxy, yet you choose to go with the one that benefits him. Sonic and his friends have dealt with dimensional rifts, black hole monsters, and beings that control time and space in gameplay and cutscens, while failing with the black hole in Colors, and you choose the worst one out of the bunch to lowball him. Adding to the fact that characters in Mario Party, as a requirement of the gameplay, are all on the same level in terms of every stat when we know there's clearly differences outside of it, similar to how Super Smash Bros puts the fighters on similar levels with the Shulk example I gave. Not to mention there was no time specification for the Millenium Star's decent, it clearly wasn't going that fast when they "catch up to it," and the decent could have more to do with gravity than actual speed. But Mario Party overall isn't exactly the best to use for feats.