Thread:TheDigger1/@comment-26860296-20161002181928/@comment-26220697-20161002182711

Suit-wearing anime characters who, despite being the oldest members of their respective groups, are also the weakest of them. While they are nowhere near as strong as the other main characters, they still try to help out and fight opponents way out of their league to protect them. They aren't the greatest fighters, but they have other talents that come in handy many times, especially their ability to talk their way out of almost any situation. Both usually appear a bit rude and selfish, but they are actually very nice people.