Talk:Knuckles VS ???/@comment-26381751-20150723022304/@comment-2255534-20150723034321

Okay then. Now I'm not going to say that Bowser WOULD win (I'm not one of those guys), but the reason I believe he would win is because of my findings.

First, I've managed to find how strong Bowser is without any magical enchantments or upgrades. In Bowser's Inside Story, he was pushed by the Fawful Express, used as its cowcatcher, caught off-guard, and actually managed to slow it down, and if he didn't get hit in the dick by a rock, might've stopped it. Either way, given the type of train it was and using the lowest numbers I could find, Bowser would've had to resist at least 150 tons moving at 30 mph.

Compare that Strength to Ganondorf, who, while powerful, has been physically overpowered in a sword fight against Link, who didn't possess any actual Superhuman strength. As Ganon, he was still tipped over like a cow by Midna. I feel certain that Bowser has proven to have the strength needed to take on Ganondorf and Ganon.

Now the biggest argument for Ganondorf is that the triforce of power would never let him die. While true, when he does face defeat, the triforce still doesn't save him from his end fate. In fact, the triforce has/had left him in such scenarios (possibly because he couldn't bind it to himself any longer since he took it in the first place).

In contrast, Bowser has survived much harsher punishments than Ganondorf with the triforce has. Lava, explosions, trains to the face...death. A few times. He's like a fire-breathing crash test dummy.

Now in the end, this isn't just meant to be my personal argument on why Bowser can beat Ganondorf. It's also meant to show that this particular match-up isn't one-sided in Ganon's favor, as well as a great Nintendo villain death battle. I honestly feel that of all of the villains Nintendo has, Ganondorf would be the best match-up for Bowser.