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Timefreezer4 wrote:

VioletLightning89 wrote:

Clockworx wrote: VioletLightning89 wrote: Hero Of Darkness wrote: VioletLightning89 wrote: TheDudeMcDude wrote: Gaara vs. Toph is the only fight I truly take issue with.

At the time I didn't mind it as I had seen Naruto and I had not seen Avatar, so I pretty much didn't have an opinion on the outcome. Few years later after seeing Avatar, I see large flaws with this fight.

Is Toph precise? Sure. Can She sense Earth of all kinds? Definitely. Is her bending strong enough to bend Metal? Yes.

...but all that means nothing unless she can move fast enough to react to it and I'm sorry, after watching all of Avatar, Korra and even reading the comics, I don't see anything to suggest that she would be capable of moving or reacting close to the speeds of Gaara's sand, which they even mentioned in the video, moves faster than eyesight.

I also don't see how Toph coating herself in metal, would be able to survive the Sand Coffin and although Toph can control Earth, there's no real evidence to suppose that she could take control or redirect Gaara's sand attacks, as I pointed out before, not only are they way to fast, but controlling an element currently being controlled by another bender in the Avatar universe has been said to be very difficult.

...and finally, there's nothing to support the idea of Gaara's chakra depleting that fast, he fought through an enormous war against far more powerful opponents than Toph and showed no signs of his chakra running out, even if he did have his Sand Armour on.

Anyway, that's my two cents on this fight. I heard Ben wanted to redo this fight in new animation, which I'd be all for, but I just don't see any factor that works in Toph's favour. If he redoes the match, Toph will win again if it's a remastered fight (which I hope it is).

I hope he doesn't redo the match as a rematch (like Goku vs Superman) just to please the awful Naruto fanbase all because of a verdict they didn't like. What would be the point of that? The fight needs to be redone with an accurate result this time. Nope! It needs to be redone with the same results as last time, hence a remastered match, not a rematch! (like Goku vs Superman)

Sorry, but I agree with DB's reasoning on Toph winning and will still stand by it to the end, Naruto deserves that loss because of how poor of a fanbase they have! (and if Naruto vs Ichigo happens, Ichigo better stomp that Goku ninja clone off the face of the Earth).

Are you serious? Violet, you're inserting your own personal bias into Gaara vs Toph. I don't care if you think Naruto has a poor fanbase, it doesn't mean they should lose nor does it mean the Naruto franchise is bad as a whole. When their fanbase tries to get what they want (in this case a rematch with Garra winning), they are as bad compared to the other anime fanbases whenever their character loses (and I will agree Naruto deserves a win at some point, but not with Toph or Ichigo running around), Toph vs Garra needs to be remastered with no results changes whatsoever, just new added animations to make the fight good.

Plus I prefer Toph over Garra as a character anyday, deal with it. Like I said with ROLVe and MetallicBlur, I'm gonna have to cut this conversation short, as it too is derailing the thread. Sorry for going off-track, it's just that I hate it when fans want a remastered version of a fight from Season 2 with their preferred character winning (when in reailty they need to learn to accept the results as it is and move on).

One of the reasons why I'm not mad at Toph vs Garra's results one bit (it's the fanboys that refuse to accept the facts on why Garra lost regardless of faulty research).