Talk:Bayonetta VS ???/@comment-26952487-20160116022742/@comment-25620113-20160116083116

1) typing doesn't matter in the anime. It all depends on who has the most skill.

2) I said that doesn't include Best Wishes.

3) Yes but like I said typing doesn't matter and that loss served as a battle for growth and character development for his character. He now has never lost a gym battle since that one due to him being more strategic instead of just rushing into battles without thinking about them.

4) Same point as above. All though he technically cheated his way through Indigo league, that arc served as a way to develop his character even more.

5) So? His pikachu has also beaten it's evolved form twice.

6) This point pisses me off because it shows how little you paid attention to the series. Like you said Ash 'cheated' his way through indigo league but in orange islands he wins his battles fair and square. We also see him earn the respect of his pokemon (charizard) in orange islands and he beats a dragonite with 10 FREAKING MOVES! In Johto we see him begin to mature and treat his pokemon more like friends i.e. bayleef. We see him learn to be more considerate towards his pokemon and doesn't just yell at them when they do something he doesn't like. In Hoenn he acts as a mentor towards May and Max. In Sinnoh he also acts as a mentor towards Dawn and he is actually starting to come up with strategies to handle his opponents better. Just look at the battle against Tobias, where he selects pokemon to bypass Tobias' Darkrai. Throughout the four regions Ash is placing higher in the leaderboard. Kanto: Top 16. Johto: Top 8. Hoenn: Top 8 (again). Sinnoh: Top 4 (although he would have won if it wasn't for Tobias). We also see him get more mature and he actually understands that not everything is going to go his way. His relationship with Paul shows this.

It was Best Wishes where the writers had no idea what the hell they were doing were Ash took a dive in terms of character development. I could go into a huge rant worth 10 pages about how much I hate Best Wishes but to summarise they tried to get the nostalgia factor by making Ash a noob again just like he was at the start of his journey.

However in Kalos Ash has had even more character development done to him and I personally think that the writers, when writing XY, looked at the end of Sinnoh to develop Ash before Best Wishes because now Ash is more mature and more strategic in Kalos. If you want I could give you a list of examples but I think this comment is long enough already.