Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-26915466-20190303090602/@comment-26915466-20190531192054

I think you pretty much have to accept they choose the winner in advance, and then the research done is made to justify that win. Maybe that's not bias, but it's hardly true nerd debate stuff. Ben Singer even admits he's not a member of the VS community.

Well, if Ben Singer really WAS trying to help Goku win, he'd have calced him shaking the afterlife. Even going with the outdated four-galaxy model back then would have yielded higher results. I get they nerfed Superman, but they did the same thing for Goku, and when you do that, the losing side is naturally going to call out, given most who watched it are not even fans of Death Battle. Seriously, most of their videos get a few million views, that's all. The DBZ fights rake in far more views, and Goku vs. Superman and Goku vs. Superman 2 are their most viewed videos of all time. I just don't buy Ben's claims. Which is why I tend to think there's an inherent hypocrisy in the show, in that they constantly play spin-doctor, they are never fully up front with you, and basically, it's the same as a used car salesman, just with more polish, it's about protecting the brand and making a sale. Which is fine if you love the battle animations, but look at what Kuro said. The animation should reflect the reality, because if the research is not going to be 100% accurate, then why not make the animation 100% accurate? Unless you only care about turning off your brain and seeing good FX, which tbh, is the sad state of most Americans these days. Past the EXTREME Death Battle fanboys like you seem to be, no one takes the research that seriously, because we all know they've messed up at one time or another. They can never get the results 100% right. Either it's right for the right reasons, right for the wrong reasons, or just plain wrong, period, with a bad outcome and bad reasoning. This dude isn't even a battle debater, he took on Seth, sure, but mainly his beef with Death Battle is as a Ben 10 fan, and you're throwing shade on him rather than addressing his criticism, like how Ben and Chad have constructed a carefully repeated mantra that shields them from criticism - again, to protect the brand. To date, the ONLY time I have ever seen Ben Singer admit he was wrong was when they pinned a comment to their Captain Marvel vs. Android 18 Death Battle, and tbh, that was only after a HUGE flood of angry DBZ fans challenged him on Twitter, including Geekdom, who was very professional. No one will tell me that pinned comment wasn't them saving face. But if that's the case, that opens up the floodgates to pin comments to other videos talking about how they got them wrong. I don't see any problem with them pinning a comment to Goku vs. Sueprman 2 basically saying everything Ben ran down in his blog, but noooooo, you just know Goku vs. Superman will be made again. because Ben seriously thinks he can "offer a better explanation." Why do that, instead of just pinning a comment to that video? Because those battles get huge views, and that's all Ben is now. A salesman. He even admits it to you on Twitter. You seem totally blind to the inherent hypocrisy in the channel. Is that so horrible? We're human. We're ALL hypocrites.