Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-25172038-20170701233235/@comment-32286613-20180128182351

Of course, biased idiots sonic fans never understand.

1) Nope nope nope. But let's use your logic: Sonic needs prep time to travel around the world in order to reach the chaos emerald temples and turn into Super Sonic. Aka, both prep time and outside help.

Rainbow Dash doesn't rely on her friends too. It's true that she did all her best feats and showed her best skills with her friends, but she still has showed to use that powerup and fight her enemies on her own. So stop. First point debunked.

2) DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER? It's like saying that Superman beats Arceus even though Arceus is at the very very least Multiversal. STOP. NOW.

3) Uh, you are the one that is getting debunked.

4) My above is relevant.

5) http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Rainbow_Dash#Rainbow%20Powered

Look at her hax. I'm too lazy to list those. She hasn't a lot of hax, but she still has a few very good abilities.

6) You are the hypocrital one. Actually, a lot of people understand me. It's the total opposite: No one understand your little biased brain.

You are constantly downplaying Mario to death, saying he's a weak ass. Look here.

http://character-stats-and-profiles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:ArceusBowser44/Mario%27s_feats_compilation

Mario has consistently showed Multi-Solar System feats, and he even showed some universal feats.

The video you posted is irrelevant and stupid. Mario's most consistent feats are the same feats that puts him above Sonic.

Honestly, most of the people disagree with Universal Super Sonic and Universal Mario. And if i have to be entirely honest, while i put both Sonic and Mario at that level (see? I'm nto a sonic downplayer.), i generally don't use those feats in debates since the characters are very inconsistent, as sometimes they struggle again weak beings yet in the game later they can stomp universals, and overall, many people don't believe that Sonic and Mario are that strong.

Characters like Mario, Sonic and Kirby, who are very powerful characters despite coming from light-hearted games, are generally downplayed because their universal feats are generally considered inconsistent or stupid.